New mural on Detroit
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Betsy Voinovich
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New mural on Detroit
On the side of Quaker Steak and Lube.
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Re: New mural on Detroit
Raze a couple old buildings, put up some new faceless soulless mall buildings with murals
that proclaim "Historic" and very few will every notice the difference.
After all, "historic" to Gen X and younger is their last Tweet.
Like the Republicans calling more oil drilling and coal gathering on public land "clear skies."
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that proclaim "Historic" and very few will every notice the difference.
After all, "historic" to Gen X and younger is their last Tweet.
Like the Republicans calling more oil drilling and coal gathering on public land "clear skies."
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Jim O'Bryan
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Bret Callentine
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Re: New mural on Detroit
Your right Jim, if you really wanted a touch of nogstalgia, it should have been a huge "Mail Pouch" sign.
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Bret Callentine wrote:Your right Jim, if you really wanted a touch of nogstalgia, it should have been a huge "Mail Pouch" sign.
Brett
I do not ever remember a "Mail Pouch" sign in Lakewood. However I do remember maybe
10 walls painted with "Dairyman's" or other sales slogan. I think Keith Jewlers had a sign
at one time, Geiger's etc.. I love painted signs, from both an art and owning a sign shop
point of view.
What I found amusing, was tearing down old, putting up new, and declaring "Historic
Detroit Avenue" reminded me instantly of the "clear skies." Do one thing, declare another
people just swallow it up. Never mind the revisionist history of Lakewood, with the photo
supplied by the Chamber I believe.
Betsy observed, I found it ironically funny.
Mail Pouch, hmmmmmmmmmm they did a calendar of Mail Pouch barns, maybe we could
do one of Historic Lakewood. McDs, Quaker Steak, both Dunkin Donuts, maybe the
Social Security offices, CVS and their "neue/olde streetcar faux feeling."
or not...
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
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If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
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Heidi Hilty
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Re: New mural on Detroit
I am befuddled by the slam on Quaker Steak; they are active in community participation. As far as I can tell, they invited most of the city to their Grand Opening, they offer a 20% discount to anyone who comes in uniform after a game of softball, they sponsor Lakewood-centric events (Light Up Lakewood, for one). They put up an old photo of Lakewood on the side of their building when they could have used it for advertising. Why can't we just say thank you?
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there is beauty to behold."
there is beauty to behold."
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Heidi Hilty wrote:I am befuddled by the slam on Quaker Steak; they are active in community participation. As far as I can tell, they invited most of the city to their Grand Opening, they offer a 20% discount to anyone who comes in uniform after a game of softball, they sponsor Lakewood-centric events (Light Up Lakewood, for one). They put up an old photo of Lakewood on the side of their building when they could have used it for advertising. Why can't we just say thank you?
Heidi
I missed the slam from me ever on Quaker Steak and Lube. I still go to the one in Sheffield
Lake, and the one here in Lakewood. I have worked with them on many things, and
applauded them many time for their jumping in to help Lakewood charities and events.
I thought they went over the top, when they had someone at an event in the spring, days
after they announced they were coming here. Talking with the owner of the chain, he truly
likes communities like Lakewood, and understood what Lakewood was about, and I
reported that. I bet I have been there more than you, or most people reading this.
I like murals, good ones, and generally commercial murals are good ones.
I just find it ironic, in a city that is tearing down so much "history," it is celebrated"
But I suppose people often miss the nuances of my point. My fault.
The Observer was, at one time, about people's "observations."
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
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Paul Schrimpf
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Re: New mural on Detroit
Putting aside the nuances of Jim's commentary here, which I fully appreciate and understand, and judging it simply on its individual merits, I think that's a pretty cool mural. Thumbs up ...
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Stephen Eisel
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Paul Schrimpf wrote:Putting aside the nuances of Jim's commentary here, which I fully appreciate and understand, and judging it simply on its individual merits, I think that's a pretty cool mural. Thumbs up ...
Agreed... I love the new look of the Drug Mart Plaza...
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Paul Schrimpf wrote:Putting aside the nuances of Jim's commentary here, which I fully appreciate and understand, and judging it simply on its individual merits, I think that's a pretty cool mural. Thumbs up ...
Paul
It is good. It is a classic Lakewood photo.
The Plaza is much better than I thought, though, the entirety of the "neue Lakewood look"
seems more like Westgate, than Crocker Park. In other words, strip mall compared to
mixed use living.
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
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Peter Grossetti
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Re: New mural on Detroit
Just wondering ... did this mural need to be approved by Architectural Board of Review?
And ... did QSL commission the mural?

And ... did QSL commission the mural?
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Peter Grossetti wrote:Just wondering ... did this mural need to be approved by Architectural Board of Review?
And ... did QSL commission the mural?
Stephen
Of course you do.
Peter
Actually there are some other interesting questions as well. The photo is copyrighted, but
someone in the city downloaded it a website, and therefore has always thought the image
to be of free of restrictions and usage. However if you go to the website you can see that
they are copyrighted, and ask for a mention of the source in every use.
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
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Peter Grossetti wrote:Just wondering ... did this mural need to be approved by Architectural Board of Review?
And ... did QSL commission the mural?
© Special Collections, Michael Schwartz Library, Cleveland State University
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Cation: Anne Zagaros, R. C. Hyre, Brian Bowman, Dr. R. B. Crawford, Amos Kauffman, Edward Wiegand, Edythe Perlman, Alice Evans at Detroit Ave. and Warren Rd., 1931.
Peter
Actually there are some other interesting questions as well. The photo is copyrighted, but
someone in the city downloaded from a website, and therefore has always thought the image
to be free of restrictions and usage. However if you go to the website you can see that
they are copyrighted, and demand a mention of the source in every use.
The Digital Production Unit: Acknowledgement & Copyright for Use of Special Collection Materials
Michael Schwartz Library at Cleveland State University allows reproductions of materials from Special Collections for the purposes of research, scholarship, teaching, news reporting, criticism, or comment...
...Organizations and individuals seeking to use materials for publication must obtain permission directly from the appropriate copyright holder.
Michael Schwartz Library at Cleveland State University requests that all materials from Special Collections which are published include a complete acknowledgment, including the name of the collection or photographer (if known).
A minimum credit line should include either "The Cleveland Press Collection, Michael Schwartz Library, Cleveland State University", or "Special Collections, Michael Schwartz Library, Cleveland State University", as appropriate.
FWIW
FWIW
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama