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Hype and better or BS

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Recently i have been having a discussion with members on the right about the quality of Cuban Cigars, and Johnnie Walker Blue.

While I mantain the only real value is in talking about it not actually doing it,
I was assured I was wrong.

Well I put forward this episode of Penn and Teller on bottled water to prove
it is only the hype not the taste or any benefit.

Caution, they talk like Eisel writes!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfPAjUvvnIc

About the ten minute mark it gets real.

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Jim, have you ever head a real Cuban?
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Stephen Eisel wrote:Jim, have you ever head a real Cuban?


yes

One in Canada smoked till the end, two here in Ohio, one that well, well, well ended up down the drain with a large brandy snifter 1/2 full with Remy Louis the VIII to the horror of the person that had offered them.

I went for the scotch and a Lucky Strike, just to get the taste out of my mouth.

Now there are many reason for this. One is personal taste, two is how the hype works. The one in Canada was with a friend that built it up how he can enjoy them and we could not, and Kennedy and on and on. I was well, wasted, might have even been psychedelics involved.

The second time, it was great going back to the scene of the crime. But unlike going back to see 200 Motels straight. Without the psychedelics I found it to be nothing extremely special without the colorful hype. The third time I figured it was offered with a galss Louis, hell no one offers Louis. I found both to be disgusting.

I do believe I might even have a photo with both in my hands.

Again, to me, the mileage on "Cubans" is telling people, "have you ever had a Cuban?" Not in the act of smoking it. As for the Louis, I now understand why some of my brothers mixed it with coke! I remember these instances not because of the wonderful smoke but because of the hype that went with it. Absinthe is another one of these greatly over hyped products. I have a friend who brings in "the good stuff." The first time it was magical, the utensils, the preparation the fire, the distilation in front of your eyes. The second time it was like Mom trying to get me to drink Cod Liver oil. For me it was Green Chartreuse, after years of never finding it I found a case hidden away in Daytona, and bought it. 18 years later, my mechanic finished the last bottle. When it was under the shelf, did not need it as much.

All hype, as Jeff a cigar smoker mentioned, if they were at Convenient next to the Swisher Sweets we would be hearing about something else I am sure.

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Stephen Eisel wrote:Jim, have you ever head a real Cuban?


No!

:wink:

I am sure you love it, to me much worse than smoking a cuban cigar.


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Jim O'Bryan wrote:
Stephen Eisel wrote:Jim, have you ever head a real Cuban?


No!

:wink:

I am sure you love it, to me much worse than smoking a cuban cigar.


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lol when are you coming over???
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Stephen Eisel wrote: lol when are you coming over???


Not tonight, been sick all weekend.

Thank you Gary Rice for stopping by.


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maybe we can smoke one at the Beck Center
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Stephen Eisel wrote:maybe we can smoke one at the Beck Center


Why ruin a wonderful night?


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Stephen

Can the mind heal?


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Jim O'Bryan wrote:Stephen

Can the mind heal?


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yes
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Jim O'Bryan wrote:
Stephen Eisel wrote:maybe we can smoke one at the Beck Center


Why ruin a wonderful night?


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you are right
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