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Robert Bobik · Post by **Robert Bobik** » Sat Oct 29, 2016 1:51 pm

"but rents it and does not pay property taxes"

This is false. The taxes are included in the rent. When property taxes go up, do you think that the landlord covers it out of the goodness of their heart? The "renters not paying property taxes" thought is a very misguided opinion.

Peter Grossetti · Post by **Peter Grossetti** » Sat Oct 29, 2016 1:53 pm

Lori Allen _ wrote: If she truly is independent, why would she throw herself in the middle of this and possibly risk losing patients?

Because the greater good is more important to some people than personal gain?

Lori Allen _ · Post by **Lori Allen _** » Sat Oct 29, 2016 8:58 pm

I think you missed the point. The whole point was that while this person has a right to their opinion and a right to write what they want, they do not live in Lakewood and cannot fully understand the issues Lakewood faces. Therefore, her opinion should be taken with a grain of salt, in my opinion.

Peter Grossetti · Post by **Peter Grossetti** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:43 am

Lori Allen _ wrote:....do not live in Lakewood and cannot fully understand the issues Lakewood faces.

Ah, come on, Lori. Seriously? One needs to be a resident to fully understand? That sounds like a City Hall-issued sound bite. I so appreciate your investigative exploits ... but please drop this nonsensical line of thought that non-Lakewood residents are clueless.

Jim O'Bryan · Post by **Jim O'Bryan** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:20 am

Peter Grossetti wrote:
Lori Allen _ wrote:....do not live in Lakewood and cannot fully understand the issues Lakewood faces.
Ah, come on, Lori. Seriously? One needs to be a resident to fully understand? That sounds like a City Hall-issued sound bite. I so appreciate your investigative exploits ... but please drop this nonsensical line of thought that non-Lakewood residents are clueless.

Peter

And this is where we met.

Not clueless, they have no-skin in the game. Spectators, not participants.

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Robert Bobik · Post by **Robert Bobik** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 2:38 pm

Unless they have family that live in Lakewood, friends who live in Lakewood, might be planning on purchasing a home in Lakewood, maybe planning on retiring in Lakewood.... Many ways to have skin in the game.

Jim O'Bryan · Post by **Jim O'Bryan** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:35 pm

Robert Bobik wrote:Unless they have family that live in Lakewood, friends who live in Lakewood, might be planning on purchasing a home in Lakewood, maybe planning on retiring in Lakewood.... Many ways to have skin in the game.

Robert

It was referring to the first time Peter and I discussed this topic, skin in the game.

Owner? Renter? Business Owner? Double Business Owner? Renter? by years? Own more than one home. Want to live here, want to come back her. Never want to live here but are intrigued by our city?

For the sake of this conversation, a nod to Peter, and a clarification on the comment.

I personally believe the more you have invested, the more skin you have in the game.

At the same time, to discount the possible insight, intellect, or perspective on any subject from the rest of the world would be stupid.

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cmager · Post by **cmager** » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:02 pm

Jim O'Bryan wrote:At the same time, to discount the possible insight, intellect, or perspective on any subject from the rest of the world would be stupid.

I live on the edge of being discounted.

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