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[Jim O'Bryan]

I for one cannot remember Ryan Salo being attacked or shut down. I certainly do not remember Ryan Patrick Demro ever being shut down or marginalized. Ryan Salo only has 9 posts, and those came during his campaign. Ryan Patrick Demro seems to be active but would also appear to be busy.

These are your perceived notions that you bring to this board. It is not true at least for the Observer.

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Jim, I read the city council reports on your site, and Mr. Demro gets little credit for what he does. Sometimes it's as if he doesn't exist according the reports about council meetings.
This paper, under Mr Warren's observation, should do everything it can to promote Mr Demro. The last thread I can recall regarding him was people bashing him for a proposed smoking ban.

Why you and Mr. Warren can't understand the double standard is amusing to me.

I certainly don't recall anyone evoking this Kiwanis rule during that debate (especially for a comment I'm simply saying someone has the right to say, not that I agree with it).
Joe

Joe

What I find amusing is that you complained when I over wrote one of your posts. Now you are telling to me stop, or change someone else post. Stan Austin is the City Council reporter I have NEVER asked him what to write. NEVER. I have even gone one better. i have sat and talked with every member of council, and begged them to write their side, or their story. When they asked that it goes directly to print without editing I promised that it would. All can post.

Ask Ryan, either one. Ask them if I have begged them to write.

As far as the Kiwaian pledge. As you can tell I take my membership very seriously. Do you?

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[Jim O'Bryan]

To the LO, the PD, the Sun, the Buzz, 3,5,8,19,25.43, the Free Times, the Scene....I love ya all! You're all great in your own way, and you all suck in your own way. Keep on keepin' on!

Joan

A couple big differences. The paper was not started because of the shortcomings of other boards. Never even entered our minds. the paper and the board were there as part of the visionary Alignment for Lakewood. Not to battle anyone or make that statement. Before the Deck was launched I spoke indepth with Steve Fitzgerald about what he would NEVER do. What he would never do is what the Observer Deck is. Real names, no editing, hard copy paper, profits turned over to Lakewood charities, an advisory board, live meetings, and on and on.

It was not started to fill some void left by the PD and/or the Sun. If that was the case we have failed. But if you go back to the mission statement, building the brand, and getting the word out about Lakewood, we have succeeded beyond our wildest dreams, and we are just getting up to speed.

720,000+ hits from 67 countries and every state in the union.

What till you see our next act!


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[Kenneth Warren]

Joe:

I can't buy the double standard reflex whine. The invitations to Republicans and Conservatives to write for LO are long standing since inception.

I make invitations to people all the time, especially when someone complains about the slant of Stan Austin or Gordon Brumm.

I say step up, man, own your bias and write something about Lakewood half as good from your righteous perspective.

That takes work and written work puts one in the hot seat.

Whiners are slow on the uptake. Whiners expect Jim to produce a right wing kernel in the Lakewood source code. That's not his job in the experimental domain of the Lakewood Observer. The onus is on the whiner to produce or enlist a producer.

I have said it many times the Lakewood Observer runs on a put up or shut up volunteer dynamic. Volunteers with communication skills need to put up something of quality, relevant to Lakewood.

Don't whine about others with communication skills putting up from a liberal perspective you can't accept.

Since the beginning of the LO I have urged numerous friends of Ryan Demro, and Mr. Demro himself, to put it up for the Lakewood Observer.

Recently Suzanne Metelko, a supporter of Ryan Demro, has stepped up for two articles. I hope to see more.

It's far too easy to whine. Why don't you write a couple of council pieces, and do it through the lens of Ryan and yourself, or however you care to make it relevant to the city.

Find your tongue, tighten your focus, go Lakewood, veer right but cut the Robo-Con flab we can hear on Rush, O'Reilly and Fox.

Kenneth Warren

[Joan Roberts]

Mr. O.

You don't have to defend yourself or anyhthing about LO to me, I think it does what it does terrifically. My post was more a comment on the way people perceive The Media (and guess what,? YOU are The Media now)
My point is that obviously it's easier to sling arrows than to receive them.

You said the other day you were a "conspiracy buff." Mr. Milan obviously believes YOU'RE part of one, too. He probably didn't believe that until you started the LO. See how that works?

Read the post immediately below yours. It was written by Ken Warren, but I can imagine the same words coming from Doug Clifton or Dan Rather. Except they've been hearing it for 30 or 40 years, not one, so they don't bother anymore.
When I've talked to media people, when I wanted to be one, I heard the same thing over and over, "grow an armadillo's hide." I'm sure your hide is toughening by the day. I wish you continued success.

[Joseph Milan]

I say step up, man, own your bias and write something about Lakewood half as good from your righteous perspective.

As I said before; this is the death of free speech as we know it.
I never agreed with the statement made, but feel one has the right to say it.
I was asked once to submit an article to the site; instead of it getting front page attention on the site it was put in the back as a simple letter to the editor because the editor didn't want to feature it too prevalently. I was never asked to submit a letter to the editor. Is it this organization's policy that all articles submitted are hidden in the letters to the editor section?

I hereby disavow saying that someone has the right to protest the Observer; NOOOO! One can't say anything terrible about the paper.

Free speech has died.
Can we get rid of the ACLU now? Thanks.
Joe

"it's all right to speak your mind, as long as I see your point of view"

[Jim O'Bryan]

When I've talked to media people, when I wanted to be one, I heard the same thing over and over, "grow an armadillo's hide." I'm sure your hide is toughening by the day. I wish you continued success.

Joan

Probably my biggest problem in life is I could care less what people think of me. But I am always willing to go to war for friends and family. My life is an open book, I have been really down and really up. Nearly everyone in the city knows the boring life of Jimmy O'Bryan.

But the baseless attacks on the Observer and the people that do not understand that instead of preaching and writing a million posts to? could do better just writing the story. To Joe's credit he did, and he does feel like it was not as fulfilling as others. This I also understand, but as he and others are now part of my family I would really like to move past and get him writing again.

As for you, I would love to get you writing for the paper, and on a couple of our field trips. i think you would add a lot to the discussion and the paper. Plus you could see the faces Ken makes when we make him eat substandard pizza.

Thank for the kind words, wish we could get you to commit more to the paper and staying in Lakewood. We need more people like you.


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