Boycotting Lakewood Observer Advertisers
Moderator: Jim O'Bryan
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terry batdorf
Boycotting Lakewood Observer Advertisers
I dont believe in the lies and the Kool Aid drinker statements that the staff of the Lakewood Observers makes here so I will boycott all companies that but advertising from the Lakewood Observer. I understand the agenda and I do not agree with it and it is my right to refuse to spend my hard earned money in businesses that support this endeavor.
Save the mission statement BS. It is not the liberal way to be out front about your intentions, after all your are taking your cues off JFK and Billy Cinton.
My family, neighbor and friends will continue to vote with our wallets as we have done in the past. I just added the Lakewood Observer to the list along with the Hungry Howies, Around the Corner, Gepettos, etc.
You are free to say what you like, you have god given right, but so do I.
Save the flames for somebody else.
Save the mission statement BS. It is not the liberal way to be out front about your intentions, after all your are taking your cues off JFK and Billy Cinton.
My family, neighbor and friends will continue to vote with our wallets as we have done in the past. I just added the Lakewood Observer to the list along with the Hungry Howies, Around the Corner, Gepettos, etc.
You are free to say what you like, you have god given right, but so do I.
Save the flames for somebody else.
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Grace O'Malley
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Charyn Varkonyi
I have to say, Terry, that is you want your statements to be taken seriously, you should probably stop with the insults and innuendos.
I will always listen to someone that wants to make their case without being hateful, but in your case, as well as a few others, it seems that the only way you feel your argument has legs is if you fill it with emotionally charged rhetoric. If that is the case then I submit to you that you really have no case at all.
Lead with fear, motivate with hate? Is that really what is at the core of the republican party? I dont think so! I know many republicans (one of whom I will marry in August) and I dont think any of them feel represented by the majority of 'republican' views posted here.
It is shame that there are not more even-keel republicans (such as Ms. Roberts) participating on this board because I think that the current throng does not accurately represent the republican party any more than GWB accurately represents them.
JMO
Pleadingly,
~Charyn
I will always listen to someone that wants to make their case without being hateful, but in your case, as well as a few others, it seems that the only way you feel your argument has legs is if you fill it with emotionally charged rhetoric. If that is the case then I submit to you that you really have no case at all.
Lead with fear, motivate with hate? Is that really what is at the core of the republican party? I dont think so! I know many republicans (one of whom I will marry in August) and I dont think any of them feel represented by the majority of 'republican' views posted here.
It is shame that there are not more even-keel republicans (such as Ms. Roberts) participating on this board because I think that the current throng does not accurately represent the republican party any more than GWB accurately represents them.
JMO
Pleadingly,
~Charyn
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terry batdorf
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Charyn Varkonyi
Terry,
They are no more my peers than they are yours. There is no-one that I would call friend that would say such a thing regardless of their disagreements with this administrations decisions.
My eyes are wide open - why else would I post asking for moderation? Not only to you, but to others as well. No-one is served by hateful insulting dialogs and, in the end, what I believe America needs the MOST is for ALL Americans to come together - regardless of political party.
It is my opinion (and we all know what opinions are worth- haha) that we will have the best chance for safety and success with a UNITED States of America and I wont stop believing that it CAN happen.
And YES - it requires BOTH parties to come to the middle. Not just the republicans and not just the democrats.
JMO
Hopefully,
~Charyn
They are no more my peers than they are yours. There is no-one that I would call friend that would say such a thing regardless of their disagreements with this administrations decisions.
My eyes are wide open - why else would I post asking for moderation? Not only to you, but to others as well. No-one is served by hateful insulting dialogs and, in the end, what I believe America needs the MOST is for ALL Americans to come together - regardless of political party.
It is my opinion (and we all know what opinions are worth- haha) that we will have the best chance for safety and success with a UNITED States of America and I wont stop believing that it CAN happen.
And YES - it requires BOTH parties to come to the middle. Not just the republicans and not just the democrats.
JMO
Hopefully,
~Charyn
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Stan Austin
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Mr. Batdorf (or whomever you are)
We at the Observer recently experienced hosting on this Observation Deck a pedophile. Our openness and desire for vigorous public debate allowed us to tolerate his incoherent ramblings until his essentially sick mind finally got the better of him. He now sits in the county jail looking forward to a trial which will ultimately take him permanently out of society.
Now you enter. You signed on under an alias as did the aforementioned. Having corrected that you then launched into a style of discourse that was never intended but nevertheless allowed on the Observation Deck.
While in many cases these exchanges have been mildly entertaining your last post crossed the line into the most heinous of political accusations imaginable in our country.
You have linked those who disagree with you as being supportive of the assasination of the President.
Mr. Batdorf--- Leave this Deck and I really hope that I never meet you personally.
Stanley D. Austin
We at the Observer recently experienced hosting on this Observation Deck a pedophile. Our openness and desire for vigorous public debate allowed us to tolerate his incoherent ramblings until his essentially sick mind finally got the better of him. He now sits in the county jail looking forward to a trial which will ultimately take him permanently out of society.
Now you enter. You signed on under an alias as did the aforementioned. Having corrected that you then launched into a style of discourse that was never intended but nevertheless allowed on the Observation Deck.
While in many cases these exchanges have been mildly entertaining your last post crossed the line into the most heinous of political accusations imaginable in our country.
You have linked those who disagree with you as being supportive of the assasination of the President.
Mr. Batdorf--- Leave this Deck and I really hope that I never meet you personally.
Stanley D. Austin
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Re: Boycotting Lakewood Observer Advertisers
Terry
I honestly appreciate you airing your opinions on this forum. As an American you have every right to speak your mind, and to call for this boycott. However do I not also have that same right? As the publisher of the paper, I never wanted to use the physical paper as a way to air my opinions and/or grievances. Just didn't seem right, didn't seem fair. This is why I like it when Kate Parker, and others from the right send in stories. I am sure you understand that Lakewood is heavily democratic, so it only makes sense that those figures bare out in the percentages involved in the paper.
However you are completely full of BS when you go off and accuse us of "agendas." Especially political agendas. I also find it funny when you accuse us or me of character assassination, when you started jumping in with your "mail order bride" character assassination of a person you know nothing about.
Finally you have decided to turn your back on public findings, and declassified information on Regan, Bush, Nixon and now 43. But call us the Koolaid drinkers. I only hope you are as far to the members of the Observer, as we have been with you. No editing, no deletions, no problems. So when you tell your friends to boycott our advertisers, please remember to tell them we begged you to write the story, we begged you to show us the facts, and we begged you to find more people of like mind and join with us in this discussion. But you decided to take you ball and go home.
God bless America.
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I honestly appreciate you airing your opinions on this forum. As an American you have every right to speak your mind, and to call for this boycott. However do I not also have that same right? As the publisher of the paper, I never wanted to use the physical paper as a way to air my opinions and/or grievances. Just didn't seem right, didn't seem fair. This is why I like it when Kate Parker, and others from the right send in stories. I am sure you understand that Lakewood is heavily democratic, so it only makes sense that those figures bare out in the percentages involved in the paper.
However you are completely full of BS when you go off and accuse us of "agendas." Especially political agendas. I also find it funny when you accuse us or me of character assassination, when you started jumping in with your "mail order bride" character assassination of a person you know nothing about.
Finally you have decided to turn your back on public findings, and declassified information on Regan, Bush, Nixon and now 43. But call us the Koolaid drinkers. I only hope you are as far to the members of the Observer, as we have been with you. No editing, no deletions, no problems. So when you tell your friends to boycott our advertisers, please remember to tell them we begged you to write the story, we begged you to show us the facts, and we begged you to find more people of like mind and join with us in this discussion. But you decided to take you ball and go home.
God bless America.
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Jim O'Bryan
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"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
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dl meckes
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Jeff Endress
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What an interesting thread! I’ve always loved the mindset of “my way or the highwayâ€Â….I mean, why take the time to see if there’s another side of the coin when you can save time, and keep from working those ol’ neurons by simply adopting a mentality of “if you’re not for me you’re against meâ€Â.
But, I can’t say that it is really a surprise. It isn’t unusual for supporters to rally around their cause, even as the ship is sinking, for to do otherwise would diminish the investments which they have made in that cause. The greater the investment, the greater the need to defend the cause. In some instances, those defenders may, after a period of depressed disillusion, actually acknowledge that a mistake was made, and that all their devotion, effort and sacrifice was misplaced. In other cases, the delusion will continue until rational thought has becomes impossible. I think we see this demonstrated herein.
Jeff "the food column guy" Endress
‘Course, I could be wrong….maybe I’m the one who is irrational?!
But, I can’t say that it is really a surprise. It isn’t unusual for supporters to rally around their cause, even as the ship is sinking, for to do otherwise would diminish the investments which they have made in that cause. The greater the investment, the greater the need to defend the cause. In some instances, those defenders may, after a period of depressed disillusion, actually acknowledge that a mistake was made, and that all their devotion, effort and sacrifice was misplaced. In other cases, the delusion will continue until rational thought has becomes impossible. I think we see this demonstrated herein.
Jeff "the food column guy" Endress
‘Course, I could be wrong….maybe I’m the one who is irrational?!
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Mr. Batdorf:
Are you a Sun Post operative, working the channels of inter-media espionage?
Boycott Hungry Howies and all the other LO advertisers until the cows come home.
Object decently to liberal opinions and policies you feel compelled to dispute.
It’s time for a reality check, however.
Nobody on the LO Deck has posted the criminal and lunatic thought you wish to impute.
Hence, your post crosses the line of calumny and lunacy, all in an effort to bait and damage the reputations of those with whom you disagree.
If you are committed to honor and truth, then a retraction and apology are in order.
Kenneth Warren
Are you a Sun Post operative, working the channels of inter-media espionage?
Boycott Hungry Howies and all the other LO advertisers until the cows come home.
Object decently to liberal opinions and policies you feel compelled to dispute.
It’s time for a reality check, however.
Nobody on the LO Deck has posted the criminal and lunatic thought you wish to impute.
Hence, your post crosses the line of calumny and lunacy, all in an effort to bait and damage the reputations of those with whom you disagree.
If you are committed to honor and truth, then a retraction and apology are in order.
Kenneth Warren
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terry batdorf