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Clifton Blvd Project Courtesy Of Big Brother?

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On of the new intersections with snazzy new poles(?) Hey wait what is all of that
extra gear and wires?

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Why cameras point in every direction! Hmmmmm where do those images go off too?


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How much more will Lakewood spend on police power to man these over a hundred
cameras and what is their purpose?


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This is what a sensor looks like for the emergency vehicles to control the lights.

Just curious, was the entire project just smoke and mirrors for Big Brother?


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The purpose for these devices, which don't record anything, is to sense when traffic is waiting at lights. These will be "smarter" traffic signals that keep cars at Clifton intersections from idling as much, a nod to the federal air-quality money that is funding the new signals project.

These devices are not designed to, and cannot, catch anyone.
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Kevin Butler wrote:The purpose for these devices, which don't record anything, is to sense when traffic is waiting at lights. These will be "smarter" traffic signals that keep cars at Clifton intersections from idling as much, a nod to the federal air-quality money that is funding the new signals project.

These devices are not designed to, and cannot, catch anyone.


Kevin

As always thanks for the clarification.

We found that out last night or they were not hooked up or monitored. As we tried all sorts of
illegal things in front of them seeing what would show up, Lakewood Police or Black Helicopters.
After 6 hours of errrr ahhhh errrrr testing still nothing showed up.

I ask because I know Bill Call will want to know. "Is this so that people in River and Bay can get
through Lakewood faster or without stopping?

Just kidding.


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Jim O'Bryan wrote:I ask because I know Bill Call will want to know. "Is this so that people in River and Bay can get through Lakewood faster or without stopping?"


Actually, kidding or not, that's a valid concern. It's my hope that the new signals (which are replacing signals at the end of their lifespan and which are paid for mainly with federal money) reduce emissions and hassle without increasing the freeway effect Clifton can have.

I think the Clifton streetscape project will do much more toward solving the latter problem than anything. For more on that, see http://www.enhanceclifton.com. There's a meeting on that project Wednesday, August 11, 6 to 8 p.m., Garfield Middle School.
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I wondered what those "cameras" were, glad to know I have one less thing to be paranoid about. :)
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I saw those at pretty much every major intersection in Des Moines - used for traffic signals and traffic monitoring. No Big Brother here...
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For not being cameras they look suspiciously like... cameras. Is there a primer on the technology behind them somewhere? Do they in fact take video and use fancy computers to make white boxes around what they "see" as a car? Or are they some kind of motion sensors?
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Hi,
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, odds are its a duck.

I thought I heard awhile back that Homeland security was giving Lakewood a bunch of money to install cameras. Are we sure Councilman Bulter has the clearance to know what those cameras are for?
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Move along, nothing to see here, just keep going, nothing here.

It is nice to know my country has finally gotten on the green bandwagon spending
billions all over the country to stop us from errrr ahhh eerrrrr idling too long at
traffic lights.

OK move along, nothing to see here, just keep going, nothing here.

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Made a field trip out east today to see 3D TVs, and computers. Lakewood could use an Appliance
store and a Computer Store like Micro Center.

And as we got off 271 I got a photo of a system similar to Lakewood's.
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This is the system that was put in to help curb idling. This is a telephoto image.
After 4 changes of the lights we got close enough to see them and the great work they do.

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Two more changes and we were through the lights.

Then we headed west. See all of the photos over on my August photoblog.
http://lakewoodobserver.com/photoblogs


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A. That intersection is god awful.
B. MicroCenter Fot The Win!!. We can not build one in Lakewood. I would have less money than I do now.
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Kevin Butler wrote:
Jim O'Bryan wrote:I ask because I know Bill Call will want to know. "Is this so that people in River and Bay can get through Lakewood faster or without stopping?"


Actually, kidding or not, that's a valid concern. It's my hope that the new signals (which are replacing signals at the end of their lifespan and which are paid for mainly with federal money) reduce emissions and hassle without increasing the freeway effect Clifton can have.

I think the Clifton streetscape project will do much more toward solving the latter problem than anything. For more on that, see http://www.enhanceclifton.com. There's a meeting on that project Wednesday, August 11, 6 to 8 p.m., Garfield Middle School.

I'm all for reducing emissions and hassle but was it really necessary to get new poles and lights? Couldn't we save a bunch of money by replacing the electronic guts and mounting the new sensor/camera on the existing poles? Replacing everything seems like buying a new car because your tires are worn out and your oil needs changed.
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Jim DeVito wrote:A. That intersection is god awful.
B. MicroCenter Fot The Win!!. We can not build one in Lakewood. I would have less money than I do now.


For my money Van Aken-Warrensville is the worst on the planet. It has tons of those "cameras" as well. I walk through this place every day and almost weekly see cars hitting each other, unable to figure out the lanes.

The madness:

http://goo.gl/maps/2vE2
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I have been wanting to come back to this discussion for some time.

To bring people up-to-date...

We questioned the use of the cameras being installed throughout this city, and other cities. The
response from Lakewood Law Director Kevin Butler was...

"The purpose for these devices, which don't record anything, is to sense when traffic is waiting at lights. These will be "smarter" traffic signals that keep cars at Clifton intersections from idling as much, a nod to the federal air-quality money that is funding the new signals project.

These devices are not designed to, and cannot, catch anyone."


Since that time we have found out through many sources, that it can track faces, cars, vehicles,
people walking or riding bikes, as they travel through the city, the county, the state and the country.
Virtual tracking an compiling both routes, times, connections, patterns and such on everyone. From
there when tied in with other resources they are able to build a pretty deep file on even the most
honest and law abiding people in the world. IF you think you are staying off the grid, you are only
fooling yourself, if you think big brother IS COMING, you are naive. If you think it doesn't matter
really? At the costs of billions and billions of dollars what else could be done should the government(s)
decided to go back to trusting the populace?

Early on I had the pleasure of working with a person that tracked ISP addresses, and had software
that could be added to any package to "track the user and those he communicates with 24/7/365.
The Observer and AGS declined his offer to add it to our software.
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Here are two simple charts from "Brewed Fresh Daily" that charts the users in that group, and
those of DeFrag, an industry meeting of programmers and such. In the demonstration, you could
click on any block, and get name, address, isp provide, ip address, type of computer, time of day
you accessed the net, and who you talked to and for how long. This was back 2006, done by
programmers without the weight or finances of the government, or big business. Today when coupled
with other entities out there, it becomes pretty powerful for both governments and businesses.

Facebook: largest database of bio-metric facial coordinates – Katherine Albrecht
“Facebook went public and they made so much money not because people were so excited about the ability to share information with their friends, but because the recognized the value of being able to identify individuals specifically and know all of their interests,” say Dr. Katherine Albrecht. Shock waves have travelled across the globe with the recent revelations by Edward Snowden about the NSA and U.S. spying on private law-abiding citizens the world over. As a result people are beginning to shy away from internet giants and looking for more secure ways to go about their business on-line and avoid US prying, some US companies have even closed down completely to avoid a knock on their doors by “Big Brother” with a FISA order. We spoke to privacy rights advocate and the co-founder of a much needed internet privacy provider, Dr. Katherine Albrecht, about the current paradigm.

Read it here...
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In an article in the Washington Post they talk about the "spying" and the use/abuse and how so
many say, "Well for the cost of..." as a way to explain it away. Who doesn't love Facebook, well
actually as their stock climbs back to initial ipo levels, more and more people are saying, enough
is enough, and trying to drop off the grid, if for no other reason than, security and privacy which
were two things that had real value in America and the world.

Back to the cameras...
With a powerful optical zoom lens, a camera can read the wording on a cigarette pack at 100 yards, according to the study.

"The District has had such a system for years. The Washington Post reported two years ago that the system recorded 1,800 license-plate images a minute, downloading the data into a rapidly expanding archive that could closely track people’s movements."

Many cameras, little privacy
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/many-cameras-little-privacy/2013/08/12/37462de8-01d1-11e3-9711-3708310f6f4d_story.html

So it leaves us with many questions.
1) Was the Law Director wrong? Lied to? Confused? Or was the city lied to?
2) Is all of America a hot bed of bad people?
3) Is it really necessary?
4) Where does it go?

Recently we have had government groups turn over lists to non-profits who internet activities
were being run by proven internet bullies and stalkers, right here in Lakewood. Did they have the
ability to leverage this information to other sources as well?

5) What was the city told?
6) What else is being planned for us?

And if course the biggest question of all!
7) Just how much has air quality improved in Lakewood?

Stay tuned more to read about data farming in Lakewood, by who and for what?

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Your personal heli-drone will be assigned later, citizen, move along :)
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