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Donald Farris
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How many Lakewood teachers are paid to do nothing?

Post by Donald Farris »

Hi,
A couple of months ago I read a story about some teachers in the LA School system that were paid to do nothing. I fact there were so many of them paid to do nothing that the School System could no longer afford a space for them to sit in so they were told not to come to work, but they would still be paid. I thought, well that's LA for you. But today I saw a similar story relating to NYC. See: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090622/ap_on_re_us/us_rubber_rooms

700 NYC teachers are paid to sit in a room 8 hours a day.

Ok, now I see West Coast and East Coast and I wonder is the a common thing through out our country? So, I know that people that know this answer are regularly on the Deck. Please, answer this question:
How many teachers does the Lakewood School System pay to do nothing all day long?
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stephen davis
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Re: How many Lakewood teachers are paid to do nothing?

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Donald Farris wrote:Hi,
A couple of months ago I read a story about some teachers in the LA School system that were paid to do nothing. I fact there were so many of them paid to do nothing that the School System could no longer afford a space for them to sit in so they were told not to come to work, but they would still be paid. I thought, well that's LA for you. But today I saw a similar story relating to NYC. See: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090622/ap_on_re_us/us_rubber_rooms

700 NYC teachers are paid to sit in a room 8 hours a day.

Ok, now I see West Coast and East Coast and I wonder is the a common thing through out our country? So, I know that people that know this answer are regularly on the Deck. Please, answer this question:
How many teachers does the Lakewood School System pay to do nothing all day long?


Troll.

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Donald Farris
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Re: How many Lakewood teachers are paid to do nothing?

Post by Donald Farris »

Hi,
Name caller. I guess everyone adds to the conversation what they are able to.
Mankind must put an end to war or
war will put an end to mankind.
--John F. Kennedy

Stability and peace in our land will not come from the barrel of a gun, because peace without justice is an impossibility.
--Desmond Tutu
stephen davis
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Re: How many Lakewood teachers are paid to do nothing?

Post by stephen davis »

Donald Farris, in his topic title wrote:How many Lakewood teachers are paid to do nothing?


Based on LA and NYC, Donald Farris wrote:How many teachers does the Lakewood School System pay to do nothing all day long?


stephen davis wrote:Troll.


Donald Farris wrote:Name caller.


Wikipedia wrote:In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.


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Gary Rice
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Re: How many Lakewood teachers are paid to do nothing?

Post by Gary Rice »

So....

Would the implication here be that some teachers are bad, or....

would the greater implication be that the wheels of educational administrative inefficiency can be mind-boggling at times?

The fact remains, for anyone so inclined to research topics like this, that a number of these disputes simply involve interpersonal and sometimes petty or controversial interactions between administrators and staff, often having little to do with education. Otherwise, I would think that there there would be prompt hearings held and appropriate actions taken.

Were there sufficient evidence to involve the courts, the courts would of course, BECOME involved, and should be. Due process, however, is a constitutional right for all Americans, and not just teachers.

To blame unions for administrative actions like these would be disingenuous in the exteme, because it is the administrations that initiate those types of actions. Teachers' unions simply protect their members from being railroaded by insuring due process, and by helping their members in dealing with the arbitrary and capricious garbage that comes along every now and then.

In our neck of the woods, to directly answer Donald's question, I believe that such situations around here would be very, very rare occurrences indeed.
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Re: How many Lakewood teachers are paid to do nothing?

Post by Bill Call »

Donald Farris wrote:Hi,
Name caller. I guess everyone adds to the conversation what they are able to.


:D

The last I looked Lakewood teachers average a 95% attendence rate. That means the average teacher only misses 9 days a year.

I might someday put in a public records request for the use of sick time by administrators; it might be an interesting read.
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