Bush Administration lied to America 935 times to invade Iraq

[Donald Farris]

Hi,
Does anyone care?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_on_go_pr_wh/misinformation_study_4;_ylt=AsJvGZfGcPneut_713t.0RkE1vAI

What can be done?

[sharon kinsella]

Impeach and indict.

I've signed as many petitions as I've found on line.

[Ryan Salo]

Lying and saying something that turns out to be incorrect are totally different.

Definition of lying: the deliberate act of deviating from the truth

Here are some quotes from Sharon's friends in politics.

Should they all be called liars too?

“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members … It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.â€Â

[TIM CARROLL]

Politically speaking I think an impeachment or any similar thing would be a disastrous move on the part of the Democratic party. Right now you have a very fractured GOP in trying to find the next leader. There is a lot of discontent over the current crop of potential nominees and I think nothing would bring the party together faster than something like this.

The Democrats are standing near the top step of leading this nation in 362 days, with the GOP behind you.

Would you risk the losing the Ring when you are so close to grabbing it?

[sharon kinsella]

Ryan -

How old are those quotes.

The point is that he continued to lie over and over after he had it proved to him that his reality was fantasy.

You want me to go down the list of republicbois truth?

They all lie - but most of them stop when the gig is up - he just keeps on rolling.

[Ryan Salo]

How old are the quotes? The dates are right there. From before 911 to after it. The same time Bush was saying them.

When did Bush recently say there are still WMD?

You should know there are more important things to do in todays world than to worry about online impeachment petitions, and old quotes from both party's that were based on wrong information.

Come on, get over it....

Lets focus on bowling teams or the next LO social

Tim Carroll - did you end up stopping by on Sunday? I missed you there!

[sharon kinsella]

Hey - I didn't bring it up.

Did you follow his discource about Iran.

I am certainly not going to scour for ressources, I do know that in the LAST YEAR many things have been brought to light and Bush has never changed his stance at all.

I don't bowl, but I could come to it and screw up everyone's bowling sheets.

[Stephen Eisel]

From 12-16-98

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/ ... inton.html

CLINTON: Good evening.

Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.

Maybe it is not the messenger but the source of the intel?

[Ryan Salo]

I am certainly not going to scour for ressources, I do know that in the LAST YEAR many things have been brought to light and Bush has never changed his stance at all.

Maybe you should scour for the truth.

Quote from December 14th 2005. 2+ years ago.

"It is true that much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong. As president I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq. And I'm also responsible for fixing what went wrong by reforming our intelligence capabilities. And we're doing just that."

This isn't changing his stance?

If I were you I would double check my sources.

BTW - I wouldn't hit many pins so you could only help my score

[Stephen Eisel]

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/DJ05Ak02.html

[sharon kinsella]

Yep he sure went slow - didn't he.

[Ryan Salo]

With our weapon technology we sure could have gone faster!

[Lynn Farris]

When Clinton lied - he was impeached and what he lied about didn't directly affect the lives of the American people. These lies are much more significant.

The question as was true in Watergate is what did he know and when did he know it. Was he misinformed or did he know the truth and continue to perpetuate a lie?

I think we need a special prosecutor to determine the depth of this.

JMHO.

[Stephen Eisel]

When Clinton lied - he was impeached and what he lied about didn't directly affect the lives of the American people. These lies are much more significant.

The question as was true in Watergate is what did he know and when did he know it. Was he misinformed or did he know the truth and continue to perpetuate a lie?

I think we need a special prosecutor to determine the depth of this.

JMHO.

The issue of WMD's in Iraq was an issue loing before Bush took office. Iraq has never given proof that they destroyed all of their WMD's.

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2002/SC7564.doc.htm

“Recalling all its previous relevant resolutions, in particular its resolutions 661 (1990) of 6 August 1990, 678 (1990) of 29 November 1990, 686 (1991) of 2 March 1991, 687 (1991) of 3 April 1991, 688 (1991) of 5 April 1991, 707 (1991) of 15 August 1991, 715 (1991) of 11 October 1991, 986 (1995) of

14 April 1995, and 1284 (1999) of 17 December 1999, and all the relevant statements of its President,



“Recalling also its resolution 1382 (2001) of 29 November 2001 and its intention to implement it fully,



“Recognizing the threat Iraq's non-compliance with Council resolutions and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles poses to international peace and security,



“Recalling that its resolution 678 (1990) authorized Member States to use all necessary means to uphold and implement its resolution 660 (1990) of 2 August 1990 and all relevant resolutions subsequent to resolution 660 (1990) and to restore international peace and security in the area,



“Further recalling that its resolution 687 (1991) imposed obligations on Iraq as a necessary step for achievement of its stated objective of restoring international peace and security in the area,



“Deploring the fact that Iraq has not provided an accurate, full, final, and complete disclosure, as required by resolution 687 (1991), of all aspects of its programmes to develop weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles with a range greater than one hundred and fifty kilometres, and of all holdings of such weapons, their components and production facilities and locations, as well as all other nuclear programmes, including any which it claims are for purposes not related to nuclear-weapons-usable material,



“Deploring further that Iraq repeatedly obstructed immediate, unconditional, and unrestricted access to sites designated by the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), failed to cooperate fully and unconditionally with UNSCOM and IAEA weapons inspectors, as required by resolution 687 (1991), and ultimately ceased all cooperation with UNSCOM and the IAEA in 1998,



“Deploring the absence, since December 1998, in Iraq of international monitoring, inspection, and verification, as required by relevant resolutions, of weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles, in spite of the Council's repeated demands that Iraq provide immediate, unconditional, and unrestricted access to the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC), established in resolution 1284 (1999) as the successor organization to UNSCOM, and the IAEA, and regretting the consequent prolonging of the crisis in the region and the suffering of the Iraqi people,



“Deploring also that the Government of Iraq has failed to comply with its commitments pursuant to resolution 687 (1991) with regard to terrorism, pursuant to resolution 688 (1991) to end repression of its civilian population and to provide access by international humanitarian organizations to all those in need of assistance in Iraq, and pursuant to resolutions 686 (1991), 687 (1991), and 1284 (1999) to return or cooperate in accounting for Kuwaiti and third country nationals wrongfully detained by Iraq, or to return Kuwaiti property wrongfully seized by Iraq,



“Recalling that in its resolution 687 (1991) the Council declared that a ceasefire would be based on acceptance by Iraq of the provisions of that resolution, including the obligations on Iraq contained therein,

[Joe Whisman]

Clearly the current administration is in need of performance enhancing drugs.