Clinton Wins Nevada

Bryan Schwegler · Post by **Bryan Schwegler** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:27 pm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22739349/

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:39 pm

Is Nevada more significant than Iowa?

Bryan Schwegler · Post by **Bryan Schwegler** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:40 pm

Stephen Eisel wrote:Is Nevada more significant than Iowa?

Well there's certainly more delegates I believe.

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:52 pm

Bryan Schwegler wrote:
Stephen Eisel wrote:Is Nevada more significant than Iowa?

Well there's certainly more delegates I believe.

I do believe that Iowa has more delegates..

Brian Pedaci · Post by **Brian Pedaci** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:08 pm

These winner/loser calls in primaries drive me bananas. The difference between Clinton and Obama in NV is 2 delegates. Out of over 4000. Winning is important for Clinton because she leads in the superdelegate count and she simply needs to maintain that lead. Otherwise it's meaningless.

Bryan Schwegler · Post by **Bryan Schwegler** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:14 pm

Stephen Eisel wrote:
Bryan Schwegler wrote:
Stephen Eisel wrote:Is Nevada more significant than Iowa?

Well there's certainly more delegates I believe.
I do believe that Iowa has more delegates..

You are right. But what does matter is public perception. Hillary has now won 3 out of the 4 states that have held Democratic primaries (that includes MI which doesn't count this year for Dems).

As we head into "mega Tuesday" or whatever it's called, perception of momentum is important. That's why Nevada is important. South Carolina will be interesting...

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:50 pm

But she only has a two delegate lead... (I think

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Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:06 pm

Hillary

Obama

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primar ... orecard/#D

Wow, she is more than 2 delegates ahead

Bryan Schwegler · Post by **Bryan Schwegler** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:35 pm

Stephen Eisel wrote:But she only has a two delegate lead... (I think )

But the average voter doesn't pay attention to delegate count, they look at who won. If someone continues to win, it's more likely more people will vote for them. The whole bandwagon effect.

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:54 pm

Bryan Schwegler wrote:
Stephen Eisel wrote:But she only has a two delegate lead... (I think )

But the average voter doesn't pay attention to delegate count, they look at who won. If someone continues to win, it's more likely more people will vote for them. The whole bandwagon effect.

I am confused

What is the difference between pledged and Superdelegates? I thought that the Superdlegates did not get counted until the democratic convention?

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:43 am

Nevada, Obama 13 delegates and Hillary 12

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primar ... /state/#NV

Bryan Schwegler · Post by **Bryan Schwegler** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:59 am

Stephen Eisel wrote:Nevada, Obama 13 delegates and Hillary 12

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primar ... /state/#NV

The problem is, that's not the true count. You need to include Nevada's super delegates also:

Clinton 12+2 = 14
Obama 13+1 = 14

CNN does a horrible job of displaying the true count of delegates for each candidate.

The overall totals are:

Clinton 210
Obama 123

David Lay · Post by **David Lay** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:00 am

Bryan Schwegler wrote:CNN does a horrible job of displaying the true count of delegates for each candidate.

Agreed. I never fully understood how they can call election results so early.

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:07 am

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01 ... -list.html

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:10 am

From Wiki

Superdelegates are delegates to a presidential nominating convention in the United States who are not bound by the decisions of party primaries or caucuses. Superdelegates are elected officeholders and party officials.

Superdelegates were first appointed in the 1970s, after control of the nomination process in the Democratic Party effectively moved out of the hands of party officials into the primary and caucus process. The aim was to accord some say in the process to people who had been playing roles in the party before the election year.

As of the 2008 nominating cycle, the Republican Party does not have superdelegates. It does, however, have 463 unpledged delegates, 123 of whom are Republican National Committee members.[1]

In the Democratic primary phase of the 2004 U.S. Presidential election, Howard Dean acquired an early lead in delegate counts by obtaining the support of a number of superdelegates before even the first primaries were held.