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Here Comes The Rains (and flooding) Again, Photos and Videos

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The storm starting coming in bands. It was not suppose to spread west of East 55th, but it did!

Soon West 117 underpass started flooding, then in came the calls for I-90.

Then they shut down Westbound and 3 lanes of Eastbound, so they could move in water rescue equipment(boat) to check cars that were "underwater."

The police and Fire got everything under control, and today it is open again. Good work.

Here are some photos.

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To see video click on this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKf9en1Zc6g



Do not drive into deep water.

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Storm drains are supposed to meet 100-year storm rainfall and the 4.5 inches of rain that was deposited over 18 hours does even not come close. Rocky River only reached 10.5 ft., well under the 14 ft. flood stage.
Basement flooding, with water backing up from the basement drains, is another example of inept and inert City of Lakewood’s refusal to spend capital and start replacing sewer and storm drains. Instead a one acre parking lot is being built for the City's regional swimming pool that will contribute 122,193 gallon of rain water into the storm system with 4.5 inches of rain.

The replacement of the interceptor will not reduce basement flooding, it designed to reduce the outflow system from storm/sewer water into the lake, and divert it to the waste treatment plant, that will become overburdened and dump it into the river.

Lakewood’s water and sewer rates are 3 times higher than Rocky River’s who have an active program of replacing and up grading their old lines. Lakewood Council is spending the excess rates on overstaffing of the sewer department and waste treatment plant. In fact all the departments are overstaffed compared to comparable size cities.

Basement flooded, blame the council and the mayor who are in entertainment business, duplicating social services, or affordable housing in one of the highest property tax city in the area. To top it off, the council is wasting money on higher renewable energy rates, all for a “Green Photo OP” when the electricity is from fossil fuel generation plants. This brings up the question, how many feet of inadequate sewer storm and sewer lines to prevent basement flooding, or lead service lines providing water to children could have been replaced for the monies spent at Cove Center and overstaffing. City of Lakewood is all about talk the talk, and will never be able to walk the walk by providing reasonable rates for services, or have a comprehensive program for replacing infrastructure. They can't even keep the detrition of blacktop from becoming, how many patches does it take to pave a street.

Not doubt the flooding on I-90 is due to the state's inept and inert maintenance of the storm drain system, as the area next to a river that is 85 feet below the road surface.
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Richard Baker wrote:Storm drains are supposed to meet 100-year storm rainfall and the 4.5 inches of rain that was deposited over 18 hours does even not come close. Rocky River only reached 10.5 ft., well under the 14 ft. flood stage.
Basement flooding, with water backing up from the basement drains, is another example of inept and inert City of Lakewood’s refusal to spend capital and start replacing sewer and storm drains. Instead a one acre parking lot is being built for the City's regional swimming pool that will contribute 122,193 gallon of rain water into the storm system with 4.5 inches of rain.

The replacement of the interceptor will not reduce basement flooding, it designed to reduce the outflow system from storm/sewer water into the lake, and divert it to the waste treatment plant, that will become overburdened and dump it into the river.

Lakewood’s water and sewer rates are 3 times higher than Rocky River’s who have an active program of replacing and up grading their old lines. Lakewood Council is spending the excess rates on overstaffing of the sewer department and waste treatment plant. In fact all the departments are overstaffed compared to comparable size cities.

Basement flooded, blame the council and the mayor who are in entertainment business, duplicating social services, or affordable housing in one of the highest property tax city in the area. To top it off, the council is wasting money on higher renewable energy rates, all for a “Green Photo OP” when the electricity is from fossil fuel generation plants. This brings up the question, how many feet of inadequate sewer storm and sewer lines to prevent basement flooding, or lead service lines providing water to children could have been replaced for the monies spent at Cove Center and overstaffing. City of Lakewood is all about talk the talk, and will never be able to walk the walk by providing reasonable rates for services, or have a comprehensive program for replacing infrastructure. They can't even keep the detrition of blacktop from becoming, how many patches does it take to pave a street.

Not doubt the flooding on I-90 is due to the state's inept and inert maintenance of the storm drain system, as the area next to a river that is 85 feet below the road surface.
It is entertaining and nice to know that you like most Republicans, facts mean nothing, as long as one can bitch and rant against something. Especially something that can blamed on Ds. Who cares about history, facts, reality as long as you can wake up angry at the world and share that anger.

Thanks for the smile this morning.

Your answer is to just put it all in the river and lake. Interesting.

Only spend money on what you want to see done, and screw the rest. Hmmmmmmmm interesting take on life should be in Lakewood.

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Compliments to Mr. O'Bryan for fine photos and photo journalism unique to Lakewood. Thanks, Jim!
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I was watching a YouTube video saying the Great Lakes states can be a climate change refuge. But photojournalism like this reminds of our infrastructure challenges.
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Re: Here Comes The Rains (and flooding) Again, Photos and Videos

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It is entertaining and nice to know that you like most Republicans, facts mean nothing, as long as one can bitch and rant against something. Especially something that can blamed on Ds. Who cares about history, facts, reality as long as you can wake up angry at the world and share that anger.

Thanks for the smile this morning.

Your answer is to just put it all in the river and lake. Interesting.

Only spend money on what you want to see done, and screw the rest. Hmmmmmmmm interesting take on life should be in Lakewood.


Jim, in the mid-1980s a small town in Illinois applied and received a federal grant for over two million dollars 80 percent of the cost to replace an outdated wastewater treatment plant and reduce stormwater infiltration into the system thus discharging untreated wastewater in the river. A few of wastewater treatment plant improvements allowed drying solids inside, a more economical aeration process, more capacity for growth, and replacing chlorine using UV lighting system for final treatment before it was discharged into the river.

Water infiltration was reduced by replacing lines, removing storm drains into the wastewater lines, sealing defective manhole covers, sealing/replacing wastewater lift stations, etc. etc. Any access stormwater that could not immediately be treated was diverted to the old aeration tanks for retention to be treated later. The improvements eliminated any pollution of the river from the city’s waste treatment plant. In my position I was closely involved with the city engineer, wastewater plant manager, contractors, finance and approvals of work completed.

Additionally, I sat on both planning and zoning boards as ad hoc member. When the new developments, both small and large, one that had over two hundred homes, the requirements for stormwater detention, or retention were at the 100-year storm, or 6.5 inches in 24 hours for this town. A difficult task when we had a flood plain running through the town. Engineers designing a highway don’t guess at the amount of stormwater that will fall on interstates, or plan the drainage at a 10-, or 25-year storm so the roads can flood regularly. Like all stormwater systems, maintenance is key to ensure water will be drained at the designed capacity.

If the engineers are so confident in the capacity of the new interceptor to handle excessive storm/wastewater infiltration, why aren’t they eliminating the outfalls lines into the lake. Outfalls are the safety valves to prevent hydraulic pressure when the system is overload to prevent catastrophic damage wastewater lines. What is the capacity of stormwater retention storage tanks at the plant, 25-, 50-, & 100-year storm? When, not if, the retention tanks are at capacity and inflow exceeds the plants’ ability to treat the water, untreated stormwater will be discharged into the river as it is now.

The $80 million project is a good start, but it does not solve the issues with stormwater infiltration into the wastewater lines, it only diverts it to the treatment plant. Why the EPA allowed the City of Lakewood to operate without demanding improvement for decades is obviously political. However, only when forced to make infrastructure improvements by the agency did the city respond. Where was the City of Lakewood in the 1980s when 80/20 federal grants were available for wastewater treatment plant improvement and stormwater infiltration? Residents are now paying for years of neglect.

Rather than political rhetoric, may I suggest you refrain from calling people ignorant when you don’t have a clue about their experience or background.




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