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Neo-Nazi Propaganda Posters on Lakewood RTA Stops
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 8:03 am
by Bridget Conant
There’s a discussion on the (real and original) Lakewood Facebook group about RTA shelters along Clifton Blvd bring defaced with posters for “Identity Europa,” a neo-Nazi white supremacist group. About 5 shelters were plastered and there are pictures.
I hope the city removes these ASAP.
Re: Neo-Nazi Propaganda Posters on Lakewood RTA Stops
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 8:14 am
by Michael Deneen
Bridget Conant wrote:There’s a discussion on the (real and original) Lakewood Facebook group about RTA shelters along Clifton Blvd bring defaced with posters for “Identity Europa,” a neo-Nazi white supremacist group. About 5 shelters were plastered and there are pictures. I hope the city removes these ASAP.
How dare these White Supremacists share such overt racism here in our beloved Lakewood!
They should know that our city leadership prefers the soft, dog-whistle brand of racism.
Re: Neo-Nazi Propaganda Posters on Lakewood RTA Stops
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:03 am
by Jared Denman
While I find any sort of political philosophy that prescribes more power invested in the state- such as found in fascism or socialism- as dangerous to our inherent freedoms, I also value my freedom of expression. To call for someone's rights to be abrogated because I find them offensive is to pay lip service to this valued ideal and disrespects those who paid with their lives to defend them.
Re: Neo-Nazi Propaganda Posters on Lakewood RTA Stops
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:23 am
by Bridget Conant
Fox8 is on the way to Lakewood to report on this.
Re: Neo-Nazi Propaganda Posters on Lakewood RTA Stops
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 2:37 pm
by Dan Alaimo
In the middle of that long discussion, John Palmer made an excellent point.
"The best way to discredit a bad idea is to allow it to reach the "public square". Then we have the opportunity to challenge it, reject it, and overcome it."
Re: Neo-Nazi Propaganda Posters on Lakewood RTA Stops
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 3:59 pm
by Stan Austin
Ditto-- Show yourselves--- come to a City Council meeting and make a public comment.
Re: Neo-Nazi Propaganda Posters on Lakewood RTA Stops
Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 6:02 am
by Jim O'Bryan
This entire discussion blows my mind.
1) There is no such thing as FREE SPEECH in graffiti or postings in RTA Bus Shelters.
2) If the graffiti is in or on an RTA Bus Shelter they should have the same 48 hours to remove it as the rest of the city. Though it would appear some people are imunned to enforcement. The City should not waste time and money removing it, start fining RTA like they would any business or homeowner.
3) FREE SPEECH is sacred but to speak up to defend it when it comes from hate groups seems a tad ridiculous. Would it not be better to just stay silent, and let the fools underline themselves as fools and haters? Or better still fight free speech with free speech against them.
4) To post it or discuss it plays into their hands keeping their and this hideous message alive.
If it was in an RTA Bus Shelter in Lakewood maybe 13 people saw it, maybe 5 read it. Now it is on one of the 30 Lakewood "Community*" discussion boards, TV, and who knows where else.
* Hyperbole, last count there were only 11 community boards and another 60 groups broadcasting their own messages bringing the community together one board at a time.
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