Neo-Nazi Propaganda Posters on Lakewood RTA Stops
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Bridget Conant
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Neo-Nazi Propaganda Posters on Lakewood RTA Stops
There’s a discussion on the (real and original) Lakewood Facebook group about RTA shelters along Clifton Blvd bring defaced with posters for “Identity Europa,” a neo-Nazi white supremacist group. About 5 shelters were plastered and there are pictures.
I hope the city removes these ASAP.
I hope the city removes these ASAP.
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Michael Deneen
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Re: Neo-Nazi Propaganda Posters on Lakewood RTA Stops
How dare these White Supremacists share such overt racism here in our beloved Lakewood!Bridget Conant wrote:There’s a discussion on the (real and original) Lakewood Facebook group about RTA shelters along Clifton Blvd bring defaced with posters for “Identity Europa,” a neo-Nazi white supremacist group. About 5 shelters were plastered and there are pictures. I hope the city removes these ASAP.
They should know that our city leadership prefers the soft, dog-whistle brand of racism.
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Jared Denman
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Re: Neo-Nazi Propaganda Posters on Lakewood RTA Stops
While I find any sort of political philosophy that prescribes more power invested in the state- such as found in fascism or socialism- as dangerous to our inherent freedoms, I also value my freedom of expression. To call for someone's rights to be abrogated because I find them offensive is to pay lip service to this valued ideal and disrespects those who paid with their lives to defend them.
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Bridget Conant
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Re: Neo-Nazi Propaganda Posters on Lakewood RTA Stops
Fox8 is on the way to Lakewood to report on this.
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Dan Alaimo
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Re: Neo-Nazi Propaganda Posters on Lakewood RTA Stops
In the middle of that long discussion, John Palmer made an excellent point.
"The best way to discredit a bad idea is to allow it to reach the "public square". Then we have the opportunity to challenge it, reject it, and overcome it."
"The best way to discredit a bad idea is to allow it to reach the "public square". Then we have the opportunity to challenge it, reject it, and overcome it."
“Never let a good crisis go to waste." - Winston Churchill (Quote later appropriated by Rahm Emanuel)
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Stan Austin
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Re: Neo-Nazi Propaganda Posters on Lakewood RTA Stops
Ditto-- Show yourselves--- come to a City Council meeting and make a public comment.
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This entire discussion blows my mind.
1) There is no such thing as FREE SPEECH in graffiti or postings in RTA Bus Shelters.
2) If the graffiti is in or on an RTA Bus Shelter they should have the same 48 hours to remove it as the rest of the city. Though it would appear some people are imunned to enforcement. The City should not waste time and money removing it, start fining RTA like they would any business or homeowner.
3) FREE SPEECH is sacred but to speak up to defend it when it comes from hate groups seems a tad ridiculous. Would it not be better to just stay silent, and let the fools underline themselves as fools and haters? Or better still fight free speech with free speech against them.
4) To post it or discuss it plays into their hands keeping their and this hideous message alive.
If it was in an RTA Bus Shelter in Lakewood maybe 13 people saw it, maybe 5 read it. Now it is on one of the 30 Lakewood "Community*" discussion boards, TV, and who knows where else.
* Hyperbole, last count there were only 11 community boards and another 60 groups broadcasting their own messages bringing the community together one board at a time.
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1) There is no such thing as FREE SPEECH in graffiti or postings in RTA Bus Shelters.
2) If the graffiti is in or on an RTA Bus Shelter they should have the same 48 hours to remove it as the rest of the city. Though it would appear some people are imunned to enforcement. The City should not waste time and money removing it, start fining RTA like they would any business or homeowner.
3) FREE SPEECH is sacred but to speak up to defend it when it comes from hate groups seems a tad ridiculous. Would it not be better to just stay silent, and let the fools underline themselves as fools and haters? Or better still fight free speech with free speech against them.
4) To post it or discuss it plays into their hands keeping their and this hideous message alive.
If it was in an RTA Bus Shelter in Lakewood maybe 13 people saw it, maybe 5 read it. Now it is on one of the 30 Lakewood "Community*" discussion boards, TV, and who knows where else.
* Hyperbole, last count there were only 11 community boards and another 60 groups broadcasting their own messages bringing the community together one board at a time.
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"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama