One Simple Question For Lakewoodites
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One Simple Question For Lakewoodites
Why would City Hall scheme for 7 years in secret, fight Lakewood residents, and business for 2+ years, on everything and anything to do with the closing of the hospital. Keep tons of documents in secret, possibly destroyed, harass residents and businesses, and pay over $1million in spin and fake news to...
... turn the money over to a group of residents chosen with no agenda to do with as they wish?
Really? For over 2 years I have said we are being played,
I am laughing so hard I'm crying.
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... turn the money over to a group of residents chosen with no agenda to do with as they wish?
Really? For over 2 years I have said we are being played,
I am laughing so hard I'm crying.
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
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Lakewood Resident
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james fitzgibbons
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Re: One Simple Question For Lakewoodites
Evil Greed. I want to know how they could get away with it right in front of everyone and how so many residents and councilmen/women went along with it. Is there really a true answer? This must go deeper than we realize and we need answers.
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Mark Kindt
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This is the invariable and natural outcome of privatization.
Once public goods have been privatized, they are never returned to the public.
If they don't vanish into vapor, they are kept private in some manner or another.
This is a 20+ year story.
Once public goods have been privatized, they are never returned to the public.
If they don't vanish into vapor, they are kept private in some manner or another.
This is a 20+ year story.
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Bill Call
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Nothing about this deal makes any sense unless we assume a secrete agenda that offers rich rewards to a the well connected.
Even if the Hospital had to close the City didn't have to give away $80 million.
Even if the Hospital had to close the City didn't have to give away $80 million.
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Privatization of public assets is the GOP gameplan. Privitization and Profitization. So here you're looking at Summers and Gang as DINO, which they used as cover to (a) get elected in Lakewood and (b) act as though they are acting in the greater good. They used partisanship against the partisans. Ultimately one cannot vote simply for the R or the D, one must vote for other criteria that includes "least corrupt" or "most transparent" or "most competent"...
Think about it...the GOP Privatization drumbeat for the well-connected includes:
Schools, roads, hospitals, prisons, the military via outsourcing. Possibly Medicare, Social Security. On a far longer term horizon the US Post Office...
Think about it...the GOP Privatization drumbeat for the well-connected includes:
Schools, roads, hospitals, prisons, the military via outsourcing. Possibly Medicare, Social Security. On a far longer term horizon the US Post Office...
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Stan Austin
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Hey--- let's back up a minute, actually two years to be precise. I thought this was all figured out--- a new rec center, health and well being to all. So now we have to start all over even before it's been declared all over? What gives?
The only thing good that I can see so far is those ugly ass 1970's buildings being demolished.
Stan Austin
The only thing good that I can see so far is those ugly ass 1970's buildings being demolished.
Stan Austin
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Stan Austin wrote:Hey--- let's back up a minute, actually two years to be precise.
Stan
Work to close hospital dates back to early 2010. Though with so many documents missing or being hidden who knows.
September 2014, talks with Mayor Summers about LOI, I let it out December 2014, then write story in January 2015, was called a liar.
then Bill Call, called liar.
then Matt Markling, called liar
Followed by Jared, called a liar.
Followed by Brian Essi, called a liar, and nasty.
Followed by Mark Kindt, called too late.
No one has proven anything but the people listed above. City Hall spent millions lying to the residents.
Pretty wild.
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
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I always forget and leave Rob Masek out of the list of "psychics" errrrrrrrr "liars"
From January, 2015!

"Hospital Not Closing" City Hall, notice the signs, and background and where we are today.
From February, 2015

"Hospital Not Closing" City Hall
AND, from July, 2015

"We broke no laws on meetings" City Hall, please read...
Civic Accountability -- Honesty in Local Government I = http://www.lakewoodobserver.com/forum/v ... =7&t=23643
Civic Accountability -- Honesty in Local Government II = http://www.lakewoodobserver.com/forum/v ... =7&t=23661
If these people are psychics, we better start listening, they are looking years down the road and nailing it every time.
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From January, 2015!

"Hospital Not Closing" City Hall, notice the signs, and background and where we are today.
From February, 2015

"Hospital Not Closing" City Hall
AND, from July, 2015

"We broke no laws on meetings" City Hall, please read...
Civic Accountability -- Honesty in Local Government I = http://www.lakewoodobserver.com/forum/v ... =7&t=23643
Civic Accountability -- Honesty in Local Government II = http://www.lakewoodobserver.com/forum/v ... =7&t=23661
If these people are psychics, we better start listening, they are looking years down the road and nailing it every time.
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
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Lori Allen _
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It is sad to see that there are still those in Lakewood that continue to try so hard to defend Summers and Extended Company. I would think that the de-canting plan would have been a real eye opener, not to mention the hospital no-bid give away to Summer's and council's best buds, CCF.
Meanwhile, myself, and others have brought plenty of documentation here to the Deck that clearly shows the apparent corruption allegedly being committed by the city administration and their foes.
I cannot state firmly enough, that although the hospital theft was extremely important, I believe that Lakewood residents should continue to look into the alleged HUD fraud, alleged phony housing scams being committed to our own Lakewood residents and especially the alleged money laundering. We appear to be housing a lot of mules in Lakewood as I speak.
Folks, Lakewood IS being stolen from us, one dollar at a time, one property at a time and one employer at a time. The city administration does not give a damn about we the tax payers.They will continue to commit their alleged crimes until we stand up and fight back. Enough is enough. They only care about what is in it from them. I allege a great deal of $$$$$$.
You may submit your concerns and complaints anonymously to the FBI at : 1501 Lakeside Avenue East, Cleveland Ohio 44114, ATTN: Complaints Department.
Notice the back lash we get from the apparent Mayor friends every time we post anything that exposes them for what they are doing and what they are? Hmmm.
Meanwhile, myself, and others have brought plenty of documentation here to the Deck that clearly shows the apparent corruption allegedly being committed by the city administration and their foes.
I cannot state firmly enough, that although the hospital theft was extremely important, I believe that Lakewood residents should continue to look into the alleged HUD fraud, alleged phony housing scams being committed to our own Lakewood residents and especially the alleged money laundering. We appear to be housing a lot of mules in Lakewood as I speak.
Folks, Lakewood IS being stolen from us, one dollar at a time, one property at a time and one employer at a time. The city administration does not give a damn about we the tax payers.They will continue to commit their alleged crimes until we stand up and fight back. Enough is enough. They only care about what is in it from them. I allege a great deal of $$$$$$.
You may submit your concerns and complaints anonymously to the FBI at : 1501 Lakeside Avenue East, Cleveland Ohio 44114, ATTN: Complaints Department.
Notice the back lash we get from the apparent Mayor friends every time we post anything that exposes them for what they are doing and what they are? Hmmm.
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Lori Allen _ wrote:Notice the back lash we get from the apparent Mayor friends every time we post anything that exposes them for what they are doing and what they are? Hmmm.
Lori
It is staggering the silence from residents.
It is not by accident, years a marginalizing every message carrier, the Observer, which is cool when they use it, but evil all other times.
It is simple peer pressure, the efforts of small people, with smaller minds.
Hide in the shadows, take credit for everything perceived as good, slam things that do not agree.
Lakewood used to be a free thinking progressive town, now it is run by thugs, villains and bad lying people.
These are not the people you once called friend.
Residents are confused, find it hard to believe City Hall can just lie, and how to hold them accountable.
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
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james fitzgibbons
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Reminds me of Trump's World !
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Jamesjames fitzgibbons wrote:Reminds me of Trump's World !
You are not alone in that thought.
Think of it. A City Hall that spends millions of the residents' money lying to them.
City is pretty broken.
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
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Lori Allen _
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Jim,
Summers and Extended Company keep pretending to REALLY care about Lakewood resident's healthcare as they appear to compile a list of "friends", and call them a foundation. Meanwhile, another new bar and vape store comes to Lakewood.
I heard on the radio this morning that parts of Detroit will be closed today as the city tears down the south office building. It appears the city cares more about CCF then we taxpayers.
Meanwhile, a year and a half later, Judge O'Donnell appears to be dragging his heels to come to any conclusion about the hospital law suit. I believe he is doing this on purpose to allow more time for CCF and Summers to plow ahead and build. It appears there is something not right about this Judge and the entire case. I allege tampering with the courts.
Please everyone, don't forget to register your complaints about the courts and the hospital case to the Ohio Supreme Court Board of Professional conduct. You can find info by searching Ohio Supreme Court.
Summers and Extended Company keep pretending to REALLY care about Lakewood resident's healthcare as they appear to compile a list of "friends", and call them a foundation. Meanwhile, another new bar and vape store comes to Lakewood.
I heard on the radio this morning that parts of Detroit will be closed today as the city tears down the south office building. It appears the city cares more about CCF then we taxpayers.
Meanwhile, a year and a half later, Judge O'Donnell appears to be dragging his heels to come to any conclusion about the hospital law suit. I believe he is doing this on purpose to allow more time for CCF and Summers to plow ahead and build. It appears there is something not right about this Judge and the entire case. I allege tampering with the courts.
Please everyone, don't forget to register your complaints about the courts and the hospital case to the Ohio Supreme Court Board of Professional conduct. You can find info by searching Ohio Supreme Court.
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Brian Essi
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Mr. Austin,Stan Austin wrote:Hey--- let's back up a minute, actually two years to be precise. I thought this was all figured out--- a new rec center, health and well being to all. So now we have to start all over even before it's been declared all over? What gives?
The only thing good that I can see so far is those ugly ass 1970's buildings being demolished.
Stan Austin
Here is a video from January 18, 2015 where Summers responds to Bill Grulich's questions about Metro:
https://youtu.be/RIgkF7nq3lk?t=1h43m33s
Summers said he spoke to St. Vincent and University Hospitals in 2011. If he was not considering closing the hospital 6 years ago, what was he talking with the CCF competitors about? Notice how Summers avoids directly answering Mr. Grulich's question. It reminds me of Spencer Tracy in "Its a Mad Mad Mad Mad World" as he hides the money.
Also, the taxpayer lawsuit produced evidence that Fitzgerald knew the hospital was closing in late 2010 and Summers was speaking with CCF officials in 2011 about developing the hospital site. i.e. "economic development"
So I think JOB is right the 7 year time frame, but there is more evidence that Summers was part of a group wanted to "regionalize' medicine shortly after the "West End" Loss/Victory thingy.
There was never any explanation by anyone as to why the first bug installment of New Foundation money is being delayed until the hospital property is surrendered back to the City in mid 2018.
David Anderson has no legitimate answers
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Brian Essi wrote: Also, the taxpayer lawsuit produced evidence that Fitzgerald knew the hospital was closing in late 2010 and Summers was speaking with CCF officials in 2011 about developing the hospital site. i.e. "economic development"
So I think JOB is right the 7 year time frame, but there is more evidence that Summers was part of a group wanted to "regionalize' medicine shortly after the "West End" Loss/Victory thingy.
There was never any explanation by anyone as to why the first bug installment of New Foundation money is being delayed until the hospital property is surrendered back to the City in mid 2018.
Brian
Been a long road, I could have helped you more, but I needed to be validated.
You came to the same, the right conclusion, finally!
This ine has been in the works since the fall of the WestEnd, mostly same key players.
An empty need to have "shopping, don;t you understand we need shopping" over residents that are not members of their club. The entire city is up for sale as long as it feeds their needs, keep their taxes low, and getting "shopping, don;t you understand we need shopping" of course some want cheaper club fees now too.

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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama