Butler Admits He Failed to Inform Council About Consequences of Master Agreement Passage

[Brian Essi]

https://youtu.be/EKu1iB_3YSU?t=1h47m18s

So Council passed the Master Agreement without knowing that they it would create the legal quagmire we are now in?

Everyone knew that the referendum was coming.

Why didn't legal counsel tell City Council what was foreseeable?

[Dan Alaimo]

Whether or not Butler is correct, that's a pretty big "oops".

If correct, would it also affect the no-compete and the giveaway of bed licenses?

[Lori Allen _]

Wow, congrats to the SLH members who spoke at the council meetings on February 1st and 11th. Awesome job! I love to see dirty rats get cornered! As usual, council would not answer any questions. It didn't take MLM long to train O'leary on what to say. I heard she threw him a bone and said"good boy"! Where are you to go to ask council questions if not a council meeting? They refuse to say anything in public because they may incriminate themselves. It appears that council has gone from a mean ding bat for president to a short little boy who is a real mean jerk!

Nothing about this deal appears to have been done legally. It is starting to close in on them and they are starting to squirm.

As for Claussen, he was arrested during a drug raid at a house on Broadview Road. He was cutting up oxicodone with a credit card. Butler took over as Law Director and is being paid $58,550 a year.
Yep folks, it looks like criminals attract friends that are criminals too!

[Brian Essi]

Whether or not Butler is correct, that's a pretty big "oops".

If correct, would it also affect the no-compete and the giveaway of bed licenses?

This is the same lawyer who changed ballot language on issue 64 without telling City Council he had done so and then the Board of Elections shot that language lie down immediately.

This was the same lawyer who participated in giving Pae, Heckeler et al. the talking points on the ballot language before Council had it.

The false premises, withheld information and misinformation definitely affected the $70M++ giveaway and the need for a non-compete.

Example: If nobody wanted the hospital, why the need for a non-compete?

Do your think he has changed his ways in being a-political on this referendum hoax?

Duh?

Huh?

Hmmmm.

[Dan Alaimo]

Brian,
You're a nickel short of answering my question.
I get it that Butler has a sketchy track record with the facts (trying to avoid the 'L' word with the city's lawyer), but is it at all possible he is right in this case? And, if he is, would it affect those secondary points (non-compete and bed licenses) that would enable us to get another hospital system in here?

[Brian Essi]

Dan,

No worries.

A nickel gets you less than 7/10ths of a second worth my advice.

Anybody can recite the law--the hard part is understanding facts vs manufactured political bunk.

Butler has proven himself to be a political animal who makes up and twists stuff for his politician boss.

How do you think that Councilmembers feel that he withheld his "opinion" from them until after they voted back on December 21, 2015, but he now claims he wants to share it in "good faith" before the the campaign and voting by the people?

How do you think the Councilmembers feel when he announced the "City's legal position" without ever consulting with them?

When do you think that his other client (the mayor) first heard that "opinion" and "legal position"?

It appears that Mr. Butler is in a very dark place right now and, if he really believes what he has concocted, he has put City Council in a jackpot.

Their vote does not count either? He now sounds like Rebecca Patton.

WOW!

[Lori Allen _]

I really don't care who, what, where, or why anymore. There is no excuse for council. People have to admit that they were a part of all this. If they thought something wasn't right, they could have gone to the Ethics Commission or the Attorney General's Office. No excuses. These people appear to be dirty rats, just like the mayor and his buddies. They all voted to close the hospital didn't they? Look at the way SLH members have been treated and spoken to at council meetings. Council appear to be all in for this deal just as much as Butler is!

[Lori Allen _]

This is the same lawyer who started up Great Lakes Strategies, the fake newspaper full of Summer's political BS that was supposedly started by Fitz!

[Jim O'Bryan]

This is the same lawyer who started up Great Lakes Strategies, the fake newspaper full of Summer's political BS that was supposedly started by Fitz!

Actually, I know others involved, and they knew FitzGerald was involved.

So it would seem, that Ed FitzGerald, broken star of the Democratic Party is still running, Lakewood?

It is kind of interesting, the hospital nightmare started by Ed, pushed harder and faster by Summers, completely lawered up and hidden by Butler.

Boy talk about shadow governments.

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[Lori Allen _]

Jim,
I remember several months ago when you said this was gonna get ugly. When you try to absorb all of this, it makes one a little sad. However, I love our city and a lot of the people I have met here. Even though I had six escorts around the city this morning, I will not be silenced by intimidation. We all have to fight for what is right. When I watched the videos of the last two council meetings, I thought that SLH members made a lot of good points. When the administration refuses to answer questions like "why was there no open bidding process?" You have to question why they have no answer. I think we all know the answer!

[Brian Essi]

Jay Carson said at City Council Tuesday that he doesn't think the shadow government exists.

Is it possible he does not understand whose beat he is marching to?

[Lori Allen _]

Brian,
Maybe he is either in denial or appears to not realize that he aided and abetted this "government"!

[Brian Essi]

Jay Carson certainly said a whole lot of things that were false and misleading and was very mean spirited in his personal attacks on fellow citizens Tuesday----so he does track those in the shadows that he mirrors.

He spoke of "grassy knolls" "peddling myths" "conspiratorial musings" "scaring the sick" "white knights" when he simultaneously spews forth his misinformation and down right denial of cold hard facts and he is ignorant. Yet he calls his fellow citizens "shameful"?

He blatantly misrepresented what happened with Metro--lock step with Summers.

North Coast Health Ministry is now a captive of the Clinic.

The "No" on Issue 64 PAC was funded by LHA/CCF--Carson denied that this BL cause was funded that way last year.

As the lawyer for BL and secretary for NCHM, Carson plays the role of shill for the Clinic and is also in lock step with those other "bullies" in government and in the shadows who have aligned with the Clinic under the false premise that healthcare "is going to be great" while they beat on citizens with their mean spirited lies.

Why does NCHM have this kind of a spokesperson?

[Lori Allen _]

Brian,

North Coast Health has been under the CCF thumb for a long time now. I believe Jay Carson is or was the secretary of their board.

[Dan Alaimo]

Dan,

No worries.

A nickel gets you less than 7/10ths of a second worth my advice.

Anybody can recite the law--the hard part is understanding facts vs manufactured political bunk.

Butler has proven himself to be a political animal who makes up and twists stuff for his politician boss.

How do you think that Councilmembers feel that he withheld his "opinion" from them until after they voted back on December 21, 2015, but he now claims he wants to share it in "good faith" before the the campaign and voting by the people?

How do you think the Councilmembers feel when he announced the "City's legal position" without ever consulting with them?

When do you think that his other client (the mayor) first heard that "opinion" and "legal position"?

It appears that Mr. Butler is in a very dark place right now and, if he really believes what he has concocted, he has put City Council in a jackpot.

Their vote does not count either? He now sounds like Rebecca Patton.

WOW!

Brian,
Good insights, and I mosrly agree.
But to get back to my question: does Butler's "bunk" hold water? If the answer is "I don't know," that's okay.