The Observation Deck

David Lay wrote:This is great news!

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Bill Call wrote:

David Lay wrote:This is great news!

http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/8750

What affect will a 50% reduction in hospital beds have on employment and payroll?

If the four hundred room hospital is to become a 200 hundred bed hospital dedicated to geriatric care will the hospital become more nursing home that hosptial?

What services now available at the hospital will no longer be available?

Which Clinic facility will see the increase in beds?

If there is no net loss of hospital beds where will the expansion take place?

If there is an expansion of space will the Clinic continue its current practice of demolishing Lakewoods finest homes or will it expand along the commercial district along Detroit Avenue?

What are the estimated affects on future revenue?

What are the estimated affects on future costs?

This is an old question that was never answered but: What is the true rental value of all that property leased by the Clinic and since they don't charge Lakewood residents any less for services where is the money saved invested?

I have more questions but since I don't expect these to be answered I'll move on.

Bill Call wrote:I would have thought the decision to convert a 400 bed hospital into a 200 bed nursing home would have had been discussed before implemented.

This decision wasn't made yesterday.

Jim O'Bryan wrote:For two years you have said that the hospital was pulling out and not willing to reinvest in Lakewood. They announced their fourth reinvestment in Lakewood in two year years, totaling nearly $80,000,000 dollars, and it means nothing.

Bill Call wrote:

Jim O'Bryan wrote:For two years you have said that the hospital was pulling out and not willing to reinvest in Lakewood. They announced their fourth reinvestment in Lakewood in two year years, totaling nearly $80,000,000 dollars, and it means nothing.

Converting a 400 bed hospital into a 200 bed hospital is not expanding.

Where will those 200 hundred patients go?
When was this decision made?
Is this why the Clinic has been transfering doctors to other locations?
Will the proposed changes generate the same $50 million generated each year by those 200 hospital beds?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:10 am Post subject: Re: Lakewood Hospital to Renovate, Expand
David Lay wrote:
This is great news!

http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/8750


What affect will a 50% reduction in hospital beds have on employment and payroll?

If the four hundred room hospital is to become a 200 hundred bed hospital dedicated to geriatric care will the hospital become more nursing home that hosptial?

What services now available at the hospital will no longer be available?

Which Clinic facility will see the increase in beds?

If there is no net loss of hospital beds where will the expansion take place?

If there is an expansion of space will the Clinic continue its current practice of demolishing Lakewoods finest homes or will it expand along the commercial district along Detroit Avenue?

Jim O'Bryan wrote:So what is it, do you want them to expand, or not. Do you want a larger hospital, or those homes?

The one problem I would say is if we reduce employment, Lakewood loses.

Bill Call wrote:

Jim O'Bryan wrote:So what is it, do you want them to expand, or not. Do you want a larger hospital, or those homes?

The one problem I would say is if we reduce employment, Lakewood loses.

If the Clinic wants to build a new building it can be built along Detroit Avenue. It doesn't need to build by tearing down houses on Belle.

The Clinic is going to turn a 400 bed hospital into a 200 bed hospital. Will they need the same number of doctors and nurses and administrators?

Which hospital will get the 200 patients per day that once received treatment at Lakewood Hospital?


Bill

I am pretty sure they have asked the businesses on Detroit that rent from the hospital to move. This one reason why Lakewood Christian Serves is now on Madison.

So you can take that one off your gripe list.

I also do not see the reduction, all I read is that all rooms will be private, much like Fairview. When Fairview did it with their expansion I believe there was a net gain in beds. I am not sure that is true here in Lakewood, but it would seem they are very committed to the city.

One of the things that the Clinic has been doing for years in turning each hospital into "general" and a specialty. That way they can serve the community, then after diagnosis, they can move you into the best Clinic hospital for you. I do not see how this is a bad thing except for the rare moment in scheduling. Like a mother and daughter get scheduled at the same time in different hospitals. This also allows them to get the best equipment and techies together.

Again, your overjoy for one, and underjoy for another when looked at the larger scale of things is very confusing.

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Is this something they just thought of yesterday or has the 50% cut in beds been planned for quite a while?

Jim O'Bryan wrote:That way they can serve the community, then after diagnosis, they can move you into the best Clinic hospital for you. I do not see how this is a bad thing except for the rare moment in scheduling. Like a mother and daughter get scheduled at the same time in different hospitals. This also allows them to get the best equipment and techies together.

Bill Call wrote:That actually makes sense for the hospital and for Lakewood. If there are no (substantial) job cuts.

So let it be written. So let it be done.

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