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CVS - Your Prescription Is Almost Ready

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I remember back to the day I heard the news that St. Paul's Lutheran church was closing.
It pained me, I have been studying the effects churches and their closings have on
communities, and I have known many friends and neighbors who attended church and/or
school there. I know many people who grew up on the street and played in the yard by
the massive trees, and even remember hiding behind the stone walls that were at the
Detroit Avenue end. All were crushed by the closing of the church. When they heard it was
"another CVS!" people including myself went nuts.

My personal favorite line was, "The last thing we need is a CVS Super Store selling beer,
and liquor 24 hours a day." Which of course ended up not to be the case.

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The stained glass coming down.

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The steeple ready to come down.

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Thousands of memories now in rubble.

While they were dismantling the church I had the pleasure of talking with many of the
parishioners from the past, and/or students some had been baptized there, married there, had
their children baptized there, or buried a spouse from there. I also got to meet the "head
of the project." Oddly enough, I already knew him, after a chance meeting, while I was
taking pictures of weeds on Detroit Avenue one Sunday morning and he walked up and
said, "Oh I guess I will see that on the Observer, later." I admitted that is where it was
headed, but he was headed to the Root Cafe with his daughter, and asked if I would prefer
to join him. So I did. I had just met Sean McDermott, I have never regretted the time, or
any of the conversations that have followed out of that first coffee.

Besides being very active in Lakewood with his family, Sean also works for The Zaremba
Group, and is the project manager for the CVS Project. What is even more fascinating to
me, is that Sean has been a big proponent for LakewoodAlive, Economic Development,
way-finding, and many of the things I question when I think of where the city is headed in
the future. And Sean could easily hit a baseball to CVS from where he lives; it is
"Development In His Backyard" so to speak.

I had many chances to talk with Sean, after I broke into the "deserted property" that was
actually owned by Zaremba at the time, and Shawn came to throw me out. We have often
spoke of the CVS project and others, and it has been gratifying to hear what he has to say
about, and how much he has gotten everyone in the project to put Lakewood first. All
important pieces of the church went to another church in town that this church had
merged with. The trees went to Dean Heidleloff's (a Lakewoodite's lumberyard) to be
turned into furniture that will find its way back to Lakewood.

But more to the point, if we are getting another drugstore, which is actually a misnomer,
as it really moved two blocks west, we want it to be Lakewood-friendly, and add to the
neighborhood as best it can. CVS have proven themselves to this city to be more than
willing to spend money to make their properties more attractive in the neighborhood. As
they did with the CVS "Welcome to Lakewood" wall on Clifton and Highland Ave. And they
have proved it again with this. I have to admit, this might be the best solution for a tough
question I have seen. Responsible big box project, with local companies, and Lakewood
project managers.

So let's take a look at the latest Zaremba Group Project in Lakewood before we are even invited!

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Everyone is talking about it, created by Rust Belt Welding, http://rustbeltwelding.com

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Entering the massive parking lot from Lakeland, you can see one of the bioswales used
to collect rainwater and hold it, and help scrub it before it goes into the sewer system.
While I was impressed that CVS did this, Sean assured me they are now in the
regulations, but CVS has created more of them than asked for.

You can also see the fence and special lightening to try and reduce the light pollution to
surrounding homes and property. While it cannot be 100 percent effective, by spending a
little more on lighting systems it can be reduced to "acceptable" levels. You can also see
the walkway across the back.

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A walkway across the back of the lot. One thing Zaremba Group had noticed was a large
group of residents used the church as a way to get to the Lakewood Public Library. They
also knew the parking lot would be used as well, so they created a nice walk way away
from traffic, that is well lit, and nicely landscaped for those cutting through. Make no
mistake this is an extra cost and nice feature, the walk does not lead to any of the doors!
You can also see how the lights have been shaded to not light anything past the walk.

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Damn is this lot big enough or what?! Actually they knew from experience that the lots
near downtown Lakewood get filled with cars that would stop and buy a stick of gum,
then go to the Arts Festival, and planned for that too!

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The entrance, and while I give them A+ for making things nice, the bathroom facilities
are rustic to say the least. Perhaps they will be updated before the opening.

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The bike rack is nice.

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The inside is pretty functional, clean, bright, lots of lights.

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In my humble opinion, the entire project turned out so nice, I am even willing to stop
and appreciate the "Downtown" wayfinding sign CVS paid for.

While I am still not a fan of big box, or chains in Lakewood, I am sure they will find their
way into the Best Suburb in Cuyahoga County. But if they are coming, let's make sure they are as
good of partners in the city as CVS, and the Zaremba Group.

Over coffee, just yesterday I was speaking with Sean and he said, "Jim, I do not to see
the workings of as many cities as you do as you travel around, but you have to admit
Lakewood is pretty nice." I smiled and took a sip of my coffee and said, "It truly is the
best place to live and raise a family in the county, but I am afraid many see our glass as
almost empty when in fact the glass is 85% filled." He agreed.

UPDATED
by Sean McDermott
And to build on the closing statement, I do travel extensively for work, and meet and
tour many areas, neighborhoods, etc. Bottom line is we don't know how good we have it
here and what a wonderful and special place Lakewood really is. I know you agree.
We've got it better than any peer city in our shoes.


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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident

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Well, I'm one of the people who cut through the church parking lot with my kids. I think it is very thoughtful of the architects to have created a designated path across the back.

So far what hurts the most we've discovered, is the loss of the green space, the huge front lawn-- where we consistently spotted the first robin of the year-- the flowering trees, and the huge trees on the Arthur side. It's a vastly different feeling and if this drugstore doesn't make it (there is rarely even one customer in the smaller CVS when I go in there) as huge drugstores of the past have not, that's a lot of cement to be staring at.

The cement flower areas out front are not that easy to negotiate with a bunch of kids on bikes or with strollers. I have heard that the law here is that children, under 12? ride on the sidewalk. But if the boxes are well maintained with flowers it will be nice to look at. Does CVS maintain the boxes or does the city?

Parking lot-- will it really be okay to park there for events? The smaller lot they have now has signs warning you not to park there-- even though it's a natural library overflow lot.

We'll see how it all goes. I'm really happy about the walkway and I think for what it is, I agree with Jim, they've tried to make it fit the space and the people using it the best way they can.

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This store is hardly a "drugstore!" (I'd love to know what % of its revenue will be derived from its pharamacy services.) Let's call it what it is ... a chain covenient store. (great for a quick stop for a gallon of milk, some AAA batteries, a box of L'Oreal Fade-Defying Color #6R Light Auburn hair dye; and a Baby Ruth candy bar that is caling your name as you stand at the check-out counter.) :)

IMHO, this is a handsome enough building. I just really don't like ABR's mandate that everything be built up against the sidewalk in order to maintain a historic streetcar suburb aesthetic (with no practical application).
"So, let's make the most of this beautiful day.
Since we're together we might as well say:
Would you be mine? Could you be mine?
Won't you be my neighbor?"

~ Fred (Mr. Rogers) Rogers
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Peter Grossetti wrote:This store is hardly a "drugstore!" (I'd love to know what % of its revenue will be derived from its pharamacy services.) Let's call it what it is ... a chain covenient store. (great for a quick stop for a gallon of milk, some AAA batteries, a box of L'Oreal Fade-Defying Color #6R Light Auburn hair dye; and a Baby Ruth candy bar that is caling your name as you stand at the check-out counter.) :)


Peter,

CVS:They are very much a drugstore! I think you'll find that a majority of their Retail Pharmacy revenue will be generated from pharmacy operations. The "front store" items you mentioned don't represent the primary reason for CVS's existence. Money Talks!

PHARMACY HEALTH CARE PROVIDER= CVS

Scott
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Peter Grossetti wrote:This store is hardly a "drugstore!" (I'd love to know what % of its revenue will be derived from its pharamacy services.) Let's call it what it is ... a chain covenient store. (great for a quick stop for a gallon of milk, some AAA batteries, a box of L'Oreal Fade-Defying Color #6R Light Auburn hair dye; and a Baby Ruth candy bar that is caling your name as you stand at the check-out counter.) :)

IMHO, this is a handsome enough building. I just really don't like ABR's mandate that everything be built up against the sidewalk in order to maintain a historic streetcar suburb aesthetic (with no practical application).



70% of their gross revenue is from pharmacy sales...
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Post by Peter Grossetti »

WOW :!:

Maybe my mind is stuck in the 1960's ... and remember going to my small hometown drug store (Melvin's in Gt. Barrington, Mass); sitting at the soda fountain/lunch counter; buying penny candy from Mr Katz from the jars lining the counters.

Sorry for seeming so longingly-sentimental! (sniff-sniff) :(
"So, let's make the most of this beautiful day.
Since we're together we might as well say:
Would you be mine? Could you be mine?
Won't you be my neighbor?"

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Post by Christopher Bindel »

I do have to agree, although another large drug store is really the last thing we need, CVS has proven to be good neighbors in Lakewood. The dark brick and stone work is really nice, the rear sidewalk and large parking lot were very thoughtful and creating space for flowers with the way-finding sign they paid for are all nice touches. Not the preferred outcome perhaps, but better then it could have been.
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Traffic control at the new CVS:

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And the lines are painted in the parking lot.
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Looks like it's almost ready to go.

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Post by J Hrlec »

I drove by a couple times again this weekend and it looks great. 8)
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J Hrlec wrote:I drove by a couple times again this weekend and it looks great. 8)


Hi J,

I was talking to Sean McDermott last week and I mentioned how much my kids had liked walking on the curb that surrounded the church lawn that used to be there. He told me that CVS had saved that curb-- we looked today and there it was, still capable of being walked on.

Yet another thing I had regretted when the Westwood dry cleaner building came down, was losing the little beautiful touches that aren't used in buildings anymore like the square stone carvings decorating the outside of the second story.

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This is not the best picture. If you have an IPhone and can stretch it with your fingers, you can see the stone carvings at the top of the building: little stone squares.

I took another look at the picture I posted the other day of the traffic signs, and there was one of the stone carvings, in the center of the stone pillar.

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Today I looked at the pillars surrounding the parking lot, and one by one, saw all of the carvings from the old building. I'm pretty sure Sean had a lot to do with that, and though it seems like a small thing, the kids were delighted that they can now walk right up to the stone carvings that they had seen far above them on the top of the building and see them close up. Another really nice touch. Thank you CVS and Sean.

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These "touches" incorporated by Zaremba are the little things that mean the most to me! And the fact that Betsy's family is engaged/enthralled/entertained by the "little things" are, to me, an example what the essence of Our City is.

Buildings will be razed and raised in Lakewood; businesses will change hands; new council members and mayors will be elected; new forms of media to cover these happenings will come and go. But what will NEVER change is the remarkably-undefineable (and undeniable) "Lakewood essence."

I don't know why we spend so many resources (time/people/money) trying to market/brand Our City in order to attract stuff/people. "We" know exactly who we are! Don't we?

I am interested if anyone has heard more about the Lakewood Community Vision meeting
scheduled for May 14 (6:30PM - 8:00PM) at the University of Akron Lakewood facility?
"So, let's make the most of this beautiful day.
Since we're together we might as well say:
Would you be mine? Could you be mine?
Won't you be my neighbor?"

~ Fred (Mr. Rogers) Rogers
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Post by Christopher Bindel »

Betsy, thank you for sharing that. I would not have known otherwise. I am really glad to see that they did this. It means a lot to me. I hate seeing old buildings go, especially with accents like these. Its a shame to see them end up in landfills when you know someone had to hand carve it. It makes me happy also because now I know that the design in the pillars is actual stone and not stamped concrete. I dont want to see anymore buildings go, but if they do, I hope this maybe exemplified.
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OMG, its a retail drugstore, not some architectural marvel.
:roll:
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Peter Grossetti wrote:These "touches" incorporated by Zaremba are the little things that mean the most to me! And the fact that Betsy's family is engaged/enthralled/entertained by the "little things" are, to me, an example what the essence of Our City is.

Buildings will be razed and raised in Lakewood; businesses will change hands; new council members and mayors will be elected; new forms of media to cover these happenings will come and go. But what will NEVER change is the remarkably-undefineable (and undeniable) "Lakewood essence."

I don't know why we spend so many resources (time/people/money) trying to market/brand Our City in order to attract stuff/people. "We" know exactly who we are! Don't we?

I am interested if anyone has heard more about the Lakewood Community Vision meeting
scheduled for May 14 (6:30PM - 8:00PM) at the University of Akron Lakewood facility?


Hi Peter,

While of course I agree with you, the best thing any of us can do is live in our city, make it our own, celebrate every day, and every relationship, and every location we find ourselves in, I hope I'm not one day walking down Detroit looking at little pieces of buildings that used to be there, embedded in some new corporate business that is completely unnecessary for our own community. (Lakewood didn't need a bigger CVS, I understand that it did need to have a paying owner or tenant on that land if possible.)

I think we should try to do better with the space that we have. It's not going to be a happy day when and if that new McDonald's goes up instead of the theater. The deal that was made to swap locations from Sloane to Detroit is NOT good for Detroit and residents who live off of it. It's in no way a perfect fit, it's kind of crappy, like what you expect when you pull off of a highway. Is it necessary? Maybe it is now. With all of the arts, and artists, and grants around, if we had had a more proactive Planning Department, maybe we could have actually done something with that one.

The different groups I know that approached City Hall were told that the sale was already a done deal. That's a small theater, somewhat of a modest project to bring it up to code (as opposed to the Hilliard Theater which is a real beauty, but would cost millions etc.) Other communities have found ways to keep their theaters. Maybe it couldn't have happened, but I can't be that peaceful about its loss, or the feeling that we don't necessarily have anybody who can envision this city as a whole right now.

A Quaker Steak and Lube, okay. A bigger Get Go instead of a Gold's Gym, or a Trader Joe's, or (my favorite) a laser tag arena. Okay. I miss Sakura, we went there all the time, we had pad thai and edame. I miss Dots (which I've documented on this board). Will we have new memories at Quaker Steak? Probably not, the same way we don't at Five Guys. Too expensive! Zero ambience! Do we have to take whatever we can if they pay rent? Maybe so. The east end of Detroit can look scary in its emptiness, but does that mean we take anything? By taking things that aren't so great of a fit, aren't we turning off our own residents (I would hate to live by that new McDonald's. I would NEVER move there, and there's no way around the truth of that)?

I don't know about his Community Vision meeting, but I'm FOR it! The idea of a solid community vision.

Meanwhile, I love this place, I love walking around, it has been a safe, interesting, overall gentle place to bring up my kids. There are not many middle class places left like this. I don't want to live in a planned community, with their six different styles of home to choose from, and a pool and a rec center in the middle. I know. I know.

My dad always says, "Tell me what you're for"--not what you're against. And, "Tell me what you're going to do"
not what it is that others have done that you don't like. So. Trying to follow that advice.

I'm going to celebrate my community, all of it, and my life, with my kids, because that's how you live, and it's possible to do in Lakewood. We aren't scared on the street, we have beautiful blooming trees, interesting buildings with history. (You want to see some kids enthralled, go around with a group of kids in the School Board building, the one that used to be "Rockport School" on Warren. They are in awe that their great great grandparents could have been there, in those very rooms, mulling over their spelling tests. But I digress, or do I?) Finally, we have wonderful down-to-earth interested people who care, and are willing to get involved because they know it's important.

Thanks for you comment. Lakewood is a happy place to be, and we have the luxury of safety, and peacefulness to think about it, and discuss it, and try to figure out how keep it thriving.

Betsy Voinovich
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Post by Peter Grossetti »

Betsy - I constantly tell our young friend Nadhal: "It's easy to be against something; but what are you for?" Thus, I am tickeld pink to hear your father's words: "Tell me what you're for--not what you're against."

Here's to a Happy Lakewood!
"So, let's make the most of this beautiful day.
Since we're together we might as well say:
Would you be mine? Could you be mine?
Won't you be my neighbor?"

~ Fred (Mr. Rogers) Rogers
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