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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:48 pm
by Ivor Karabatkovic
jeff,
great article on the brewing process.

I like how you pointed out to avoid tap. The taste and quality of a beer is as good as the water that is used in the brewing process.

My brother makes a really nice, rich, dark stout. I'll make sure to send one your way in time for your thanksgiving meal.

another thing that people believe is that beer has a shelf life. Some American based breweries have the "this beer was born on ____", but the date doesn't really matter. The more the beer ages the better it is, just like your brandy and whiskey.

You certainly don't want to drink your brewed beer early, or you won't be going to work the next morning.

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:28 pm
by Ivor Karabatkovic
speaking of beer, oh no, prices are going up!

go beer!

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:32 pm
by Jeff Endress
Yes, as more farmers switch from barley to corn (to cash in on the ethanol push) the cost of barley is going up. Together with a bad hops harvest....beer that actually use these two ingredients will be a bit higher in price.

Time to start homebrewing, lay in a supply of sprayed dried malt (keeps a long time) and dried hops. Suppose next year I can plant the farm in barley?

Jeff

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:46 pm
by Jim O'Bryan
Dee Krupp wrote:Just wondering...why would you want to give him German beer & food....when he can get that at home? If I were traveling to another country, I'd want to try their food, not American food.

Dee


I agree.

I will never forget the disappointment of my first night in London was spent at a TGIFRiDAY. With my friend saying, "look they even have the right catsup and mustard!"

I was able to find out on my own that a good restaurant in the UK is called "Indian."

Pabst, Schlitz (also available at Rozis) Hot Sauce, Whitmore, or as Sharon mentioned in another thread, Lancer's after 11 on a Friday night!

I am sure he didn't sit in a plane for 12 hours to eat like he is at home. The idea of a vacation is to become homesick.

FWIW

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:06 pm
by Ivor Karabatkovic
I want him to feel at home.

He has traveled the world. He has been in Atlanta for the past week and a half for training for his job and is "sick" of american restaurants and food.

That's why India Garden is on my list.

He took an extra week and a half vacation (yes, there IS a thing called vacation) and is visiting us in Lakewood.

You're right though. I've always talked to foreign exchange students out of germany in German and they'd answer back in English. It wouldn't make any sense to come all the way over here to experience the same thing.

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:09 pm
by Ivor Karabatkovic
and as Jeff pointed out, Germans would rather drink toilet water than American Brewed Beer.

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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:24 am
by dl meckes
Ah well, the problem is trying to get a decent meal in Atlanta!

Don't forget to take him to Sokolowski's (1201 University Rd).

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:56 am
by Jim O'Bryan
Ivor Karabatkovic wrote:and as Jeff pointed out, Germans would rather drink toilet water than American Brewed Beer.

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Ivor

It is not a question what is liked, but what is needed. Most humans have the inner need to work both of the scale in their memory banks.

"I had the best meal at..." "I had the worst..." from vacations and visits. Ask Gary or Cory if they have any POC back in the basement. While they would rather drink toliet water I am sure he will appreciate the chance to taste America's Blue Ribbon beer then tell you how bad it is. Then when he gets home he will tell all his friends about toliet water and us beer. It is something to build memories from.

How are you so aware that beer prices are going up?


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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:03 am
by David Lay
Or, go to Sterle's if you like Polka with your Schnitzel:

http://www.sterlescountryhouse.com/

The portions are so huge, we're having our wedding reception there!

visitor to Cleveland

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:39 am
by Mary Breiner
How about the Thai Hut on Madison. You can bring your own beer and wine.

And a burger at the West End or Herbs are not a bad thing, either.

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:41 am
by David Lay
Thai Hut is an excellent choice. I did a review of them last year.

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:43 am
by Jeff Endress
I am sure he will appreciate the chance to taste America's Blue Ribbon beer then tell you how bad it is.
But is this how we want to "build the brand"?
How are you so aware that beer prices are going up?
There was a news report, talking to the folks at Great Lakes. I've also gotten an email alert about malt price increases from an on line supplier.
Turning our food into fuel is beginning to impact the cost of what we have left to eat.....

Jeff

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:33 am
by Shawn Juris
If I missed it, I apologize but how old is your uncle? Could have some relevance to what he would enjoy.

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:46 am
by Corey Rossen
Ivor,

My best answer to your history of Bud question lingers between...
The history of crap (beer) is, well, crap.
and/or
The history of Bud is, well, who cares--it is Bud (the fine makers of Natural Light, Natural Ice, Busch, and other flavorless waters).

You are right, though, Bud itself dates way bad to early European tmes...just ask Jim, he might remember those times.

Corey

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:11 am
by Ivor Karabatkovic
He's about 36.

And Shawn, believe it or not, when I first met you I thought of him. You guys are almost identical.

not joking!