visitors to lakewood

Corey Rossen · Post by **Corey Rossen** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:46 am

Ivor,

Corey from Rozi's here.

Just a quick tidbit about Lakewood stores...

Rozi's, Lakewood's own, is ranked #37 in the NATION in beverage selection as ranked by what most, I'm sure your brother included, beer snobs would consider as the highest regarded source, Ratebeer.com.

That is the highest ranking in Ohio and surrounding states.

Stop in again (are you 21?), bring the brother, enjoy.

And yes, we have all the beer and wine making supplies he could possibly need.

Corey

David Anderson · Post by **David Anderson** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:05 pm

Ivor -

Enjoy the time with your Uncle.

I'm assuming he doesn't eat at American restaurants in Germany, so, why would he want to eat at a German restaurant in America.

My suggestions regarding food:

1) Skip Der Braumeister - he'll just be disappointed.
2) Go to Hot Sauce Williams.
3) Get a steak and baked potato at John Q's.
4) Get a corned beef sandwich at Slymans for breakfast.
5) The Melt.

Yes to West Side Market also.

My brother lives in Wilmington, N.C. I would never take him to a seafood restaurant here. However, he still talks about Slymans and the John Q's steak.

Better yet, take your Slymans' to Lakeview Cemetary. It has many picnic tables. I love that place and you'll be able to introduce your uncle to a U.S. President and First Lady.

Try the Nature Center in the Metroparks.

Again, have fun.

dl meckes · Post by **dl meckes** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:40 pm

I'd suggest the Cleveland Artists' Museum gallery in the Beck Center to get a look at work from the "Cleveland School" of artists (and beyond).

Hit at least one local fish fry.

There's a good list of favorite mom 'n pop restaurants on the Deck.

The Rock Hall is usually a must - but there's a certain banjo-playing poster on the Deck that would make an excellent tour guide.

Actually, I'd try to line up a few Observers to act as tour guides.

The Serpent Mound isn't too far away to visit...

I'm hoping to get to a mushing event in Chesterland on the weekend of the 10th (one interesting feature may include a sled team of Airedales).

Ivor Karabatkovic · Post by **Ivor Karabatkovic** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:52 pm

Sadly I'm not 21. eh, not sadly...that means I'd be three years older.

Thanks for the info Corey. If you guys carry Weihenstephan (which is the worlds oldest brewed beer) from Germany I'll swing over there tomorrow during the day with my uncle so he can pick out a few things.

Weihenstephan Brewery, Freising

He lives in Munich, so he knows beer.

India Garden is on our list. My aunt and uncle have travelled to Sri Lanka and throughout the continent of Asia with a backpack before. He loves ethnic foods.

I've never had any food from there but that will soon change. I'll take him there, and then maybe Danny Boy's in Rocky River. One of my favorites.

This is what I love about Lakewood. So much to do, so many great restaurants and places to eat. The reason I started this thread is because I had so many ideas, I figured I'd ask you all for your input so that I can narrow it down!

(shhh we're trying to get my uncle to like lakewood so that he decides he can move here and buy my neighbors house) I have to show him that Lakewood isn't all about fast food restaurants and chain restaurants and big shopping malls.

I love Lakewood!

Anne Steiner · Post by **Anne Steiner** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:02 pm

What about the Beer Engine? Or Great Lakes Brewing Co...I think they have free tours on Friday and Sat. nights, and the food is good too (great Beer Cheddar Soup mmmmmm.....

Shawn Juris · Post by **Shawn Juris** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:06 pm

Some misconceptions that I learned existed about Americans for Germans and most of the Europeans that I met is that they think we are all fat, don't travel and don't have a clue about the rest of the world. If your goal is pursuasion these may be a couple to hit on. I have to agree about skipping der Hofbrauhaus. I wouldn't take Italians to the Olive Garden, same logic seems to apply. You may want to take a look at some of the local wineries or Great Lakes Brewery. Those seemed to be a good choice in my experience.
And Germans contrary to popular belief do not all love David Hasselhof (but certainly a greater of percentage of them love the Hof than we do).

Ivor Karabatkovic · Post by **Ivor Karabatkovic** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:23 pm

Shawn I have to agree with you.

My friends from Germany who have all had the PLEASURE of meeting an "American" have said that all the common labels do not apply to the american people at all.

True Story:

There was a guy in my home town in Germany who would make fun of Americans because they "stuff their faces with food, are lazy and careless about the world" and would make fun of my other friends for coming to visit my family in America.

When the visiting friends went back home to Germany, they realized that all the labels and misconceptions of the American people that this man was spewing out of his mouth actually apply to him more than anyone else they know.

I think that there are many labels and prejudices that cultures have on others, and until you step in someone else's shoes you can't prove if these prejudices are true.

He was here about 6 years ago when we were renters, so he will see our new home and experience more since we know the community better. As my girlfriend would say "he's getting the royal treatment of having you (me) as a tour guide".

Ivor Karabatkovic · Post by **Ivor Karabatkovic** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:24 pm

Anne,

will have to try the beer engine. I've been meaning to go ever since it opened, just never had the time.

I've heard great things about it so I will have to see for myself!

dl meckes · Post by **dl meckes** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:21 pm

Shawn Juris wrote:And Germans contrary to popular belief do not all love David Hasselhof (but certainly a greater of percentage of them love the Hof than we do).

Aw, come on. We have friends in Bielefeld and they drink bier, yodel, wear lederhosen and slap dance all day long. No matter what they say.

But I am also reminded that our Bielfeld buds loved architectural tours. Lakewood is full of different architectural styles and beautiful homes, but I'd also include some city lofts and Ohio City (Franklin Circle) stuff.

Rent the Deer Hunter, American Splendor, and that last Spiderman, then visit the Theodosius Russian Orthodox Cathedral, Tremont, the Detroit Theater, Elmwood Bakery, and downtown streets.

Corey Rossen · Post by **Corey Rossen** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:24 pm

Ivor,

I'm gla dto hear he knows quality beers, definately bring him in.

We have the Weihenstephaner hefe and their seasonal Festbier.

Off the record, they are about one in a thousand breweries that claim to be the oldest.

Corey

Dee Krupp · Post by **Dee Krupp** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:25 pm

Just wondering...why would you want to give him German beer & food....when he can get that at home? If I were traveling to another country, I'd want to try their food, not American food.

Jeff Endress · Post by **Jeff Endress** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:18 pm

Dee:

I'd want to try their food, not American food.

Unfortunately, there's Mickey Dee's and Burger Wop in Germany too. But, your point is well taken. American food......good barbeque?

As for the beer, well, let's just say that a German wouldn't even recoginize Coor's Lite as a beer. And Budweiser? Well, why do you think those Clydesdales are featured so prominently....

Jeff

Ivor Karabatkovic · Post by **Ivor Karabatkovic** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:06 pm

Jeff,

One time we when we were in Germany (where it's legal for me to drink) we couldn't decide on a beer to buy in bulk. My brother and I chipped in with a few friends and one of our buddies went to the local shop to get beer.

He came back with a 24 pack of Budweiser!

ahhhhhh the shame!

My BBQ and steak are probably the best in town. Mwuahaha. I'll have to stop by the West Side Market and grab some steaks as well.

Corey,

weren't the Egyptians the first to brew beer? I remember watching something about it on the History Channel...the history of beer.. it was interesting. We'll stop by around 1pm tomorrow.

Off to the library to submit my prints...you can count on Ivor to wait until the very last day possible to get something done

Bret Callentine · Post by **Bret Callentine** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:28 pm

actually the Budweiser in Europe isn't bad. but check the label, American Budweiser can only be labeled as "bud" over there because there was actually another "Budweiser" beer already being sold. The real Budweiser is actually Checkoslovakian I believe. (Corey, can you confirm?)

My personal favorite is Lasko (pronounced Losh-Ko) from my wife's home country of Slovenia.

Anyway, definitely get him a big steak while he's here, and serve it "American Style" - off a grill, in a big back yard with a fire pit and lots of family and friends.

Jeff Endress · Post by **Jeff Endress** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:24 pm

weren't the Egyptians the first to brew beer?

Babylonians.....4300 BC

Old Column... Two years ago. WHo WOuld've thunk....
http://lakewoodobserver.com/read/opinio ... ch-is-brew

Beer is the reaon we have civilization as we know it....

Jeff