Matt Markling, Nostradamus of Lakewood?

[Michael Deneen]

So, what makes you so sure it isn't happening as you predicted?

Because the plan is for a clinic, not the rec center that that has been touted for many months by the conspiracy buffs.
Jim is apparently doubling down, which is turning the "Michael P. Summers Recreation Center" into the Lakewood Observer's version of Benghazi.

[Grace O'Malley]

Mike, just look at what transpired with the Marc's Plaza. Remember the grandiose plans, the two level Marc's? We were told it would be a showcase. Now, look what we got.

Do I believe for one moment that between the time the deal is done and the hospital is torn down, that there won't be all sorts of "adjustments" and tweaks made to the plan? We certainly could end up with something far different than what we are being told/sold. In fact, I don't see anything guaranteeing us a thing. Do you?

[Jim O'Bryan]

So, what makes you so sure it isn't happening as you predicted?

Because the plan is for a clinic, not the rec center that that has been touted for many months by the conspiracy buffs.
Jim is apparently doubling down, which is turning the "Michael P. Summers Recreation Center" into the Lakewood Observer's version of Benghazi.

Mike

For the record, just to keep facts from bulls**t.

The Hospital facility and health center take up less than 2 acres of the 7 acres there. Which
leaves 4.2 acres to develop. More than enough for a rec center and the FREE SOCCER fields
they covet more than air and water.

Mike, you know me, you know I do not dream of sports, or rec centers. These are FACTS
that have come to me. I did not go and present a rec center and tax increase to the
schools Mayor Summers and Dru Siley did.

Put your head in the sand, call Bengahzi all you wish, you are only providing cover for the
people that sold out hospital out from under us for some magic beans.

What facts do you have their is not rec center being planned?

Perhaps Mayor Summers or Council President told you? Well they have been proven to be
lying about many aspects of this.

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[Grace O'Malley]

Talk about prophetic! This is JOB in 2010!

I will be using this thread to underline what happens when a community either becomes
disengaged or turns their day to day running etc over to groups peddling promises,
dreams, snake oil and little more. Then build themselves up through lies, mistruths,
smoke and mirrors, while they really have no plan to stay in the mess they are creating.

How they are able to gut the government, the schools, destroy the non-profits, and
generally screw up things so bad they can never be fixed all in the name of "tomorrow
will be better."

It is also fascinating at how long cities and government are willing to let these hucksters go.