Clifton Boulevard Enhancement Project Groundbreaking

[Jeff Dreger]

We're gonna run out of poles... several more signs between every side street - getting dangerous to pay attention to the traffic indicators instead of the traffic itself.

[Danielle Masters]

Clifton used to be a beautiful street full of trees and lovely homes, now it is littered with signs and enormous bus shelters. It's gotten rather unsightly.

[Stan Austin]

What is interesting is where was the debate? Under whose jurisdiction were these signs placed? Chickens in the backyard has been a 3 year debate but this Disneyland bus stop scheme has gone up in months.

[Jim O'Bryan]

What is interesting is where was the debate? Under whose jurisdiction were these signs placed? Chickens in the backyard has been a 3 year debate but this Disneyland bus stop scheme has gone up in months.

Stan

Ahem, they don't care about us. This should become obvious at some point to the masses. Bill Call and Jim O'Bryan, two people diametrically opposed to damn near anything in life, agree on this.

Lakewood, as you knew it, a bedroom community that was a great place to raise a family, arrivaderci.

Get-Go and Bob Evans underlines, we are but a truck stop for food and beer between the two
freeways known as Clifton, and I-90.

What bothers me is that all of this is always dressed up with BS Hyperbole about the $16 million
dollars Clifton Street Enhancements, not "RTA is making their bus stops bigger."

$165 million dollar Detroit Street Enhancements, that will make Lakewood... not "We are mandated
to spend $165 million on big ass poles for NSA security cameras we cannot tell you what they really do."

Like they are selling us Santa Claus.

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[Will Brown]

I think most of us accept more signage, or at least more useful signage, because we realize it benefits all of us. So there isn't a lot of political risk in posting those signs.

By contrast, things such as traffic calming, or allowing farm animals in town, benefit almost none of us, and are perhaps viewed as potentially unsafe or unhealthy, or unpleasant, by many of us, so they present political risk for the incumbents.

I was surprised when the traffic calming scheme appeared without giving the citizen's an opportunity to have some input. I don't know who voted it in. I could vote accordingly if I did. I still can.

I think our elected officials are at some risk when they have to say yes or no to the chicken scheme. They know there are a small number of committed people supporting it, but they don't know how many of us don't want chickens in our town, and think people who want to raise chickens should raise them in some place where it is legal, even if it means commuting to their hen house. I suspect our council members would rather put this on the ballot, than attach their names to it

[Jeff Dreger]

Has anyone else been playing RTA's new "Guess The Side Street" game?

[Peter Grossetti]

All these signs cluttering views ... but I remember when city hall debated the yard sale issue, part of the discussion was limiting the number and size of signs allowed (as well as the signs' "artistic integrity.)