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World's nicest Taco Bell nearing completion? A little bird tweeted this out from City Hall last week. Funny there is an interesting story to this Taco Bell that I had been working on for a couple months, and it has an interesting ending.

The story started with: "When building anything, stop by the Building Department, it pays." But then you read this kind of sick hyperbole from a City Hall official who is so desperate to make friends and followers on his personal FB and Twitter accounts that they have become "official" news sources from the Planning Department. You know the kind of over-the-top self-back-patting self-grandiosing BS that makes you yearn for the retyped conversation of mom, dad and baby that normally permeates FB and Twitter. If Facebook is the low bar for a knowledge base, Twitter must me its ignorant inbred cousin-- so many people using personal accounts to make themselves sound important in business.

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The three walls worth over $100,000.

So the story started with Three Walls. Three little walls that were so insignificant they had to be held in place with supports. As some of us watched the Taco Bell come down in preparation for it becoming "The World's Nicest Taco Bell" right down from the "World Class Baseball Field, Our Field of Dreams (Edward's Field)" and "The Fastest Growing Burger Chain in America's Corporate Offices" (5 Guys regional training office for 1 year), a mile and a half from Lakewood's historic Victorian Home areas recently capped off with "Lucky for us Family Dollar and Drug Mart were willing to build to 'streetcar' city specs."

Why were these three walls so important? Why did they have to encase them, protect them, and honor them in such a way?  Then it became obvious!

With at least 3 load-bearing walls still standing, this construction could be swept under the rug as a renovation, not a rebuild. Not only could this potentially save Taco Bell hundreds of thousands of dollars ($150,000 was casually mentioned) it would allow them to rebuild there and keep their drive-through. After all, since the last time Taco Bell was built on that location, City Council, under the direction of our Ward 1 Councilman and our Ward 2 Councilman had made it illegal to build a drive-through on a lot that small in that configuration. So the only way to keep this "World's Best Taco Bell" at the gateway to DowntowN in a city of 238 places to get prepared food including 32 that serve better tacos and burritos (including Taco Tontos--locally owned, Merry Arts--locally owned, Mahalls--locally owned, Riverwood--locally owned, Deagen's--locally owned, and on and on) was to keep those 3 walls up.

Now I am sure many restaurant owners and property owners are saying, "WTF? I didn't get a $125,000 savings nor was I allowed to break city laws to get my place up and going."

Well, my point, until the little bluebird (not from Birdville--the historically correct name for Birdtown) started tweeting about how great he was doing, was, "Well, you might have gotten a break if you had worked with the building department on your project." The building department is a great place to start any rehab to build out. Not only will they make it legal, they can save you all sorts of money. When I rebuilt my back porch they told me to leave 3 pillars the same, and the porch would be a rehab, not a build-out, even though it was twice as large. Of course I was not trying to get around laws that had been put in place to retain Lakewood's value as a community. I was just trying to get my porch to a point where I could do it myself, and they helped me.

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Taco Bell in Pacifica, California. Generally regarded as the "nicest Taco Bell in America."

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But to me, the over-the-top backslapping on mediocre project after mediocre project-- "World's Best Taco Bell!"-- shepherded into what was once a great bedroom community is just getting sick, and proves that "smart phones" do not make you smart-- more often than not they make you look like a fool, and this was another perfect case.

Whenever City Hall comes up short, and it is happening all too often now-a-days, they send out a Facebook Blast or Tweet about how good they are doing.

Now both the City and the little bird have less followers than people in their offices, but it makes all of us look like stupid hillbilly rubes if we actually believe this crap tweeted our way. When the facts are completely different. Mostly during work hours. Perhaps, they could have spent the time looking for something better, much better instead of the lazy route going against the spirit of laws for this city to bring more low end development so they can trumpet their successes!

Lakewood is cool and the best place to live in spite of City Hall continuously screwing it up with crappy ideas, bad laws, selfish ideas to serve their friends and neighbors, and the general ransacking of residential neighborhoods south of the William Sonoma Line. When will City Hall look at developing their neighborhoods? Oh never, the Gold Coast can't grow, best (financially best) thing ever to happen to Lakewood. Hell, City Hall even expedited the McDonald's move because one County Executive could hear the trash cans being emptied in the morning.

If you want to see what is the best in Lakewood, don't look at the tweets and FB posts from City Hall. Get in the streets and see what real Lakewoodites are doing in their stores, on their streets, and in their groups. That is what has always made Lakewood the best, and I pray City Hall will recognize that and stop screwing it up.

So now here is the "Nicest Taco Bell in the World" and I am sure we all understand those that need hyperbole to feel secure in their lives, or we all have that cousin that when you want great sea food and suggest Pier W he demands Long John Silvers. Here is the magic trick with disappearing $100,000 walls.

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Nice "restored look" like they needed to brick in windows because of crime.

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm no sign of the walls?

One is left wondering if it will even be as nice as the Taco Bell on W150th.
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What we did find out yesterday is new or old, the same great food that will be a great addition to the Lakewood Foodscape!

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"Best Taco Bell in the World" you decide.

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This is one of the best posts you have written.

Overall I think Detroit Avenue looks good and that the City did a fine job. However, they seem a little desperate to accept anything that is proposed. The Family Dollar and new Drug Mart really did a lot of damage. The conversion of the old Drug Mart to a new used clothing store pretty much destroyed whatever value their was left at the Rockport Development.

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Bill Call wrote:This is one of the best posts you have written.

Overall I think Detroit Avenue looks good and that the City did a fine job. However, they seem a little desperate to accept anything that is proposed. The Family Dollar and new Drug Mart really did a lot of damage. The conversion of the old Drug Mart to a new used clothing store pretty much destroyed whatever value their was left at the Rockport Development.

Sir Thomas More: Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world... but for Wales?


Bill

I have been hyper critical on the Detroit project, and City Hall because I am still trying to figure out
how much it costs and for what. The two prices I have been given are $56,000,000 by the head of
the Public Works Committee and $167,000,000 by the mayor. Because of the rather large
difference I made a public record request from City Hall, which they responded too with a data
dump that we are trying to sort through.

Does Lakewood look better yes? $56,000,000 better? $176,000,000 better? As everyone including
city hall wanted us to do more reporting we are trying. We did find out that the city of Lakewood
has 6 different names for the Detroit project, so that helped in asking for documents.

Then there is the willingness of the city to constantly go against residents when ANY business looks
at Lakewood. Taco Bell, the sign for McDonalds on the side street not Detroit? And the invasion of
Grace and Cohassett where people said, "Something is better than nothing," well there were
people living in that apartment that was torn down, for a Drug Mart (moderate usage) Family
Dollar, empty. IF you need instant gratification or need to prove something is going on, something
better than nothing appeals, but if you are looking for something needed, different, and something
that sets us apart from others, well that takes work, dreams, visions and education.

Is Detroit nicer, yes if I am not paying the bill. Now I am trying to find out, did I get surf and turf
and Pier W, or White Castle? And if I got White Castle did I pay Pier W Prices?

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Jim O'Bryan wrote: "Something is better than nothing," well there were
people living in that apartment that was torn down, for a Drug Mart (moderate usage) Family
Dollar, empty. IF you need instant gratification or need to prove something is going on, something
better than nothing appeals, but if you are looking for something needed, different, and something
that sets us apart from others.....



Retail is a dying business. I don't have time to list all of the taxpayer subsidized shopping centers in Cuyahoga County that are in foreclosure, Beachwood, Cleveland Heights and all around town. Even Crocker Park is not generating enough business to pay the rent. If it wasn't for the taxpayer subsidies they would be in foreclosure as well.

Family Dollar is empty, Five Guys is gone and Quaker Steak is going and Value world is sucking the life out of Rockport. It's sad. Sometimes you are better off with a vacant lot.

Of course that brings up an old horse I like to beat now and then. If Tri-C had located its new Lorain County campus on Detroit in Lakewood it would have driven a lot of residential development and ancillary business that would have been a plus for the whole Westside. Instead they build a building that encourages outward migration, all while they complain about all of the out migration.

Lakewood is being punished by poor vision and the hostility of County institutions. Which brings to mind another dead horse: If our County institutions are heading for the exits why should the people stay behind?

If I believed in conspiracy theories I'd believe there was some kind of conspiracy going on.
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From a ward 4 resident with no particular ax to grind ... the Discount Drug Mart was a terrific upgrade, and it's always hopping when I am in there. The Family Dollar appears to be getting crushed. So too the little convenient store that inexplicably opened up next to Discount.

Does the City provide any advice and counsel to proposed business owners? That threesome of businesses in the same 3 block area almost assures that two will fail. Maybe they did, but something is going to give relatively soon, from my view.

Value World ... 2/3rds closeouts/knockoffs and 1/3rd garage sale. Is it snooty to say we could do a lot better?

Finally, anyone know what's happening with the old Baker property? Jim?
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Paul Schrimpf wrote:From a ward 4 resident with no particular ax to grind ... the Discount Drug Mart was a terrific upgrade, and it's always hopping when I am in there. The Family Dollar appears to be getting crushed. So too the little convenient store that inexplicably opened up next to Discount.

Does the City provide any advice and counsel to proposed business owners? That threesome of businesses in the same 3 block area almost assures that two will fail. Maybe they did, but something is going to give relatively soon, from my view.

Value World ... 2/3rds closeouts/knockoffs and 1/3rd garage sale. Is it snooty to say we could do a lot better?

Finally, anyone know what's happening with the old Baker property? Jim?


Nothing on Baker property, Falcone still has next to it, and the Dollar Store is slowly being rebuilt.

Value World is packed. It pains me, as I know what wanted to go in there, but the city would not
lift a finger for a world famous attraction and possible hotel. I guess it was the wrong group? :roll:

Paul, the city proves daily the world planning is merely a plaque above a door in the basement.

It would seem other cities have the ability to dictate, style, size, businesses etc.
Remember Lorain, said no more dollar stores, while Lakewood city hall made a case they are the new dime
stores. Only here in Lakewood are we left to the whim of outsiders, who are here to take money
out? Now to be fair Ward 1 and Ward 2 Councilman had crafted a moratorium on fast food places
on Detroit, and had set up size and other requirements. However the clever guys at city hall found
another way to serve business instead of the residents of this city.

My very serious attitude on this is, the only thing that has been GOLD for the city of Lakewood
over the past 5 decades and was inflation and depression proof was the GOLD COAST. It brings in
high taxable property and residents that spend dollars in Lakewood and makes everything more
viable. We whore ourselves out to get drunks here at night, how about some nice 400 unit single
floor high end condos west of the Gold Coast? 800 big dollar units for 20 homes seems like a no
brainer to this long term Lakewood resident.

FWIW


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Jim O'Bryan wrote:My very serious attitude on this is, the only thing that has been GOLD for the city of Lakewoodover the past 5 decades and was inflation and depression proof was the GOLD COAST. It brings in high taxable property and residents that spend dollars in Lakewood and makes everything more viable. We whore ourselves out to get drunks here at night, how about some nice 400 unit single floor high end condos west of the Gold Coast? 800 big dollar units for 20 homes seems like a no brainer to this long term Lakewood resident.


It's never going to happen.

Cuyahoga County is offering tax incentives for new apartments and condos in downtown Cleveland. The only tax payer assistance offered for housing in Lakewood is for homeless resettlement and the conversion of Lakewood apartments into halfway houses.

We cannot compete with those subsidies and the City has been disarmed in its efforts to halt the conversion of apartments into halfway houses and homeless shelters. I'd say that someone is waging a war against the City but I'm not sure it's a war if only one side is fighting.
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I guess Mr. Siley's attempt at "tongue-in-cheek" humor was lost on Mr. O'Bryan.

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Jim O'Bryan wrote:
My very serious attitude on this is, the only thing that has been GOLD for the city of Lakewood
over the past 5 decades and was inflation and depression proof was the GOLD COAST. It brings in
high taxable property and residents that spend dollars in Lakewood and makes everything more
viable. We whore ourselves out to get drunks here at night, how about some nice 400 unit single
floor high end condos west of the Gold Coast? 800 big dollar units for 20 homes seems like a no
brainer to this long term Lakewood resident.

FWIW


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Why isolate this idea to the lake front? Why not "whore out" the western rim of the "Emerald Canyon" 20 homes between Madison and West Clifton. Sure a sacrifice for a few but think of the possibilities. This type of development is on going and successful on both sides of the canyon to the north, seems like a no brainer to this long term Lakewood resident.

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Bill Trentel wrote:Why isolate this idea to the lake front? Why not "whore out" the western rim of the "Emerald Canyon" 20 homes between Madison and West Clifton. Sure a sacrifice for a few but think of the possibilities. This type of development is on going and successful on both sides of the canyon to the north, seems like a no brainer to this long term Lakewood resident.

Bill


Bill

Since the crappy idea of "The WestEnd" I have said, I have lots overlooking the Canyon, and if
there is a plan that can make it more valuable or have a big impact on Lakewood, I'll sell and
rebuy in Lakewood. I can take one for the team.

Had we not put the "filtration plant" down there I would love to see the canyon lined with condos
40 stories high. I am with you. If it really has a positive impact for Lakewood, let's do it. But the
stuff coming our of city hall the past couple terms has been lack luster and down right pitiful.

We were promised high end shopping, and we get General Dollar's street of dollar stores and
drug stores. The Downtown area entrance should be an embarrassment to this city. Surrounding
the Robert AM Stern library with crap should be a wake up call to all of us. They promise lower
taxes, more money high end shopping and we got none of it. Instead we carry our trash to the
curb so that the city can save $40,000 a year!!!!!!

I am now looking into the "re-evaluated" Detroit Avenue build out to see, just how much, Deagen's
Geiger's, Dollar General have added to the tax base. I fear the residents have been played on this
as well.

Yes line the lake and rive with glass towers. If downtown can attract them certainly Lakewood can
with our schools, library and location.

FWIW

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Speaking of high end shopping, how are some of the "high end stores" doing? I love looking in the window of Paisley Monkey and am amazed and appreciative of their investment in Lakewood, but I have no kids that age to buy for. The Cotton store looks great too. I noticed that Green Smart Gifts closed this weekend. Are we holding our own or is turnover in the works again?
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Paul Schrimpf wrote:Speaking of high end shopping, how are some of the "high end stores" doing? I love looking in the window of Paisley Monkey and am amazed and appreciative of their investment in Lakewood, but I have no kids that age to buy for. The Cotton store looks great too. I noticed that Green Smart Gifts closed this weekend. Are we holding our own or is turnover in the works again?



Paul

Cotton is doing well and so is the sale of the $800 sheets. I swear. David Stein has a good following
and it is funny when you understand the difference between a couch at Plantation Home, and sheets
and Cotton, if you make the money you can justify it. A Plantation Home couch is being handed down
to the kids and grand kids.

Green Smart was not a high end shop any more than Lion N Blue is. I would think Cosmic
Collectables and DeJaVu are higher end than Greensmart.

Paisley Monkey is killing it according to everything I have heard. Bot at the store and online.

But the single most popular store in town, hands down is Value World. Packed with people raving
about it. young folks love it like Avalon.

When I mention "high end stores" it is only in the context were were repeatedly told by those that
desire Lakewood to be a mall big box city instead of a bedroom community. We invested most of
$167 million in 8/10ths of a mile. Now if that was for Dollar General(good community partner),
Quaker Steak and Lube (good community partner) 3 cell phone stores, etc. I missed those m
meetings. Does Lakewood need a "Coach Handbag" store, no. But why oh why, like pointed out in
this thread does the city always go over he top with hyperbole, and fall to deliver even close on promises.

That's all.


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Maybe I was wrong.

The other day I was at a meeting in Parma, and they said let's go to "Golden Corral" it is the best
place for lunch. So I went along, and over the course of lunch I heard why they thought it was the
best, while I found the chicken kind of edible. But their limited life experiences caused them to see
"Golden Corral" as the BEST place for lunch.

So maybe with his limited life experiences he truly believes this is the BEST Taco Bell In The World.

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No matter it is ready to open, so behold the splendor of one person's best.

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Jim O'Bryan wrote:So maybe with his limited life experiences he truly believes this is the BEST Taco Bell In The World.

No matter it is ready to open, so behold the splendor of one person's best.




Careful, Jim!

You may be talking about our next mayor – or the first city manager after the city charter amendments are snuck by the voters.



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With just one call, you may be running for the border with all this crazy talk.







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Move over “DowntowN Front Porch Concerts,” Taco Bell has this one covered, too:


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