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Bald Eagle Tragedy!

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The female Bald Eagle sitting on the nest waiting, and waiting and waiting!

There had been no activity at the nest for almost two days, a lone eagle sitting on the nest, no swaps like I had witnessed for days every 40 minutes in the morning, every hour and a half or so in the afternoon. It had seemed odd, not just because of the eagle's need to stretch its wings but for its need to hunt, eat and drink water. Still the lone eagle turned the eggs like clockwork every 20 minutes or so, so I thought, maybe they are swapping duties it while I am not there. After all, I could only give the nest an hour or two a day.

Yesterday a diminutive woman in a bright blue jacket emerged from the brush and asked, "Have you seen one or two eagles?" I answered that as long as I had been there today there was only one. She frowned and moved around the bush alternating between spotting scope and binoculars. It should be noted that my photos of the eagles were taken from nearly 4 football fields away, so even good binoculars don't get you very close to the action. 

I asked what she was looking for, and she said, "the other eagle, there was a report that a bald eagle had been hit on Brookpark Road the night before and killed. It's hard to think of it as any other eagle than the other one from the nest." The news was devastating, so even on production day I gave the nest another three hours of watching with no sign of the other eagle.

Yesterday I called the naturalist at the Rocky River Reservation and asked about the eagle. The woman working the desk said, "Yes, we are 98% sure it was one of our eagles that was hit by a passenger plane landing at Cleveland Hopkins Airport. The pilot called it in immediately and we sent out rangers but could not find the bird or even feathers, but the male has been missing from the nest for at least 24 hours now." 

When I asked what would happen now she answered, "It is hard to believe that the female eagle would be able to raise the young ones on her own, as at times she will need to leave the nest and baby eagles, owls, birds in general are favorite food for other predators." I asked if there was anyway we could feed the mother so she would not have to leave the nest, her answer was, "It would be too much stress for the bird, and may chase her from the nest forever. Now, it is in the hands of the Ohio Department of Wildlife, and as Bald Eagles are no longer on the endangered species list they will leave it to fend for itself and let nature take its course." 

I asked, "So there will be no effort to save the baby which is due to hatch today or tomorrow?" and she replied, "No, these things happen and Metro Parks have no plans to rescue the baby."

As Bald Eagles mate for life, this could mean the female leaves the nest forever anyway, if it finds another mate. While the nest will be used for a variety of birds from owls to hawks to even geese, it is hard to picture anything more majestic in the nest than Bald Eagles. 

I find it hard that Metro Parks with a huge budget does not make this a priority, keeping the baby alive and/or feeding mom. I mean if it is a case of possible stress over certain death, why not try to step in? How much stress could being delivered steelhead from the river be on a bird trying to raise a young one on her own? 

I told the naturalist I would be willing to kick in some money and have 5 friends that fish in the river daily, and she said unless something miraculous happens she does not see intervention from Metro Parks as a possibility.

If you are as upset as I am, call the Rocky River Reservation, and ask for intervention. It is bad enough losing one of our two bald eagles, but losing three is a loss that we might never recover from.

Rocky River Reservation - <tel:(440)%20734-6660>(440) 734-6660 Call today! Tell your friends to call today!

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Taken late in the day, before the accident!

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Last night while photographing the owls, I was speaking with a raptor specialist, and she was talking
about the miracle and Sandy Ridge, and how a male appeared from nowhere and helped the mother.
It was extremely rare, and didn't think we should count on it, but...

Suddenly a bald eagle appeared and flew down the river in the direction of the nest.

Who knows?

The dead eagle was recovered and it is now 99% sure it was the male from the nest near Mastick Road.

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Who Knows?
Hopefully it's a horny male bald eagle and finds' his way to her and everything
has a happy ending.
Take a youth hunting or fishing.
Youth Turkey season - April 20-21
Turkey season - April 22 - May 19
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Mama eagle still sits and waits on the nest.


Jim, thanks for coming in. Jim Marquard is one of Lakewood's great outdoors-man. An accomplished
hunter and fisherman, fishing and hunting all over America, and as far away as north of the Artic
Circle in Finland and other Scandinavian countries.

Keep an eye out for Jimmy's articles in up coming Observers.

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Why do you care? It's just a bird.
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Bill Call wrote:Why do you care? It's just a bird.


Bill


Thank you for showing yet again how this Deck works so well.

No matter what the discussion we are able to take bits and pieces away about the person posting.
Of course this is why elected officials stay away like the plague. It is not the civic discourse, that
is but a red herring, why is that over time you can develop a real sense of the person in the
discussion. Which makes hiding behind being a homogenized human that can morph like a
chameleon into what ever is needed for the next vote.

Why, the bald eagle represents so much more than just the national bird of the country. It is one
of the most magnificent birds one can watch and observer. While the Peregrine Falcon holds the
record for speed, the bald eagle is the top of the food chain for birds, and so it is much like a lion,
or grizzly bear.



And while it is common in some parts of the USA, like Alaska, Colorado and even Western Ohio,
around here it is very rare to see one sitting.



I remember one sitting on a tree in front of my house, down in the Emerald Canyon, and within
an hour over 50 people had lined up to watch it, and show their children.

The fact that I was watching two of four eagles in Rocky River Reservation, it was proof just how
far we had come back from the cease pool river of the 50s, 60s, and 70s, when you could not eat
the fish, nor swim in it for fear of what you would catch.

Today the Emerald Canyon has become a mecca for fisherman, and bird watchers, and that my
friend is a good thing. To think we might now see the demise of 2/5ths of the eagle population
seems to me a real tragedy. One that might be avoided if the Metro Parks were to part with just
a few of their dollars.

I guess that might be why.

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Bill let's be honest, even you and your wife would stop and watch, and I bet smile.

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Jim O'Bryan
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Re: Bald Eagle Tragedy!

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Jim O'Bryan wrote:
Bill Call wrote:Why do you care? It's just a bird.


Bill


Thank you for showing yet again how this Deck works so well.

No matter what the discussion we are able to take bits and pieces away about the person posting.
Of course this is why elected officials stay away like the plague. It is not the civic discourse, that
is but a red herring, why is that over time you can develop a real sense of the person in the
discussion. Which makes hiding behind being a homogenized human that can morph like a
chameleon into what ever is needed for the next vote.

Why, the bald eagle represents so much more than just the national bird of the country. It is one
of the most magnificent birds one can watch and observer. While the Peregrine Falcon holds the
record for speed, the bald eagle is the top of the food chain for birds, and so it is much like a lion,
or grizzly bear.



And while it is common in some parts of the USA, like Alaska, Colorado and even Western Ohio,
around here it is very rare to see one sitting.



I remember one sitting on a tree in front of my house, down in the Emerald Canyon, and within
an hour over 50 people had lined up to watch it, and show their children.

The fact that I was watching two of four eagles in Rocky River Reservation, it was proof just how
far we had come back from the cease pool river of the 50s, 60s, and 70s, when you could not eat
the fish, nor swim in it for fear of what you would catch.

Today the Emerald Canyon has become a mecca for fisherman, and bird watchers, and that my
friend is a good thing. To think we might now see the demise of 2/5ths of the eagle population
seems to me a real tragedy. One that might be avoided if the Metro Parks were to part with just
a few of their dollars.

I guess that might be why.

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Bill let's be honest, even you and your wife would stop and watch, and I bet smile.

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I agree with everything you said.

I set a trap and you refused to step in. :D

Here is the trap:

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/05/09/int ... nd-energy/
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Re: Bald Eagle Tragedy!

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As one of those unfortunates who unfailingly falls for the flaming bag of dog crap
on the porch every couple of weeks, I do declare this the best trap, ever.
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russell dunn wrote:As one of those unfortunates who unfailingly falls for the flaming bag of dog crap
on the porch every couple of weeks, I do declare this the best trap, ever.


One eagle killed by a plane is a tragedy. Hundreds killed by windmills is just a statistic.
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Bill Call wrote:
russell dunn wrote:As one of those unfortunates who unfailingly falls for the flaming bag of dog crap
on the porch every couple of weeks, I do declare this the best trap, ever.


One eagle killed by a plane is a tragedy. Hundreds killed by windmills is just a statistic.


Bill

Sorry I did not fall into your trap. However ever website with "jonah goldberg" would not really grab
me for long. I find his mother more appealing or actually the old man who actually built the empire.

Whatever

As for the windmill comment...

I am not advocating the planes change direction, or that the airport be closed down. I can accept
the loss on many reasons. What bothered me is that Metro Parks sick deep in our money did not
seem willing to spend a dime on this. That was frustrating.

I have never been a huge fan of windmills, as they have not really ever been proven to reduce the
carbon footprint them claim. I see it and photoelectic cells as the squeaky wheel getting most of
the funding, no matter what the truth is. Add to that the "Green Movement" has taken on near
religious dimensions that sometimes not always have as much fact behind them as the religious
movements do. Not that we all don't need something to believe in.

So maybe you can get others to fall into your trap, me I am a realist.


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Jim O'Bryan
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Werner Heisenberg

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If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
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Re: Bald Eagle Tragedy!

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Jim O'Bryan wrote:Sorry I did not fall into your trap. However ever website with "jonah goldberg" would not really grab
me for long. I find his mother more appealing or actually the old man who actually built the empire.



Does this mean you never had the pleasure of reading his book, Liberal Fascism?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Fascism

I've decided to move from annoyance to amusement. :lol:

It seemed like only yesterday that an oil spill that killed a migratory bird or an Eagle was considered a serious crime. Now it's no big deal! The Feds will even sell you a permit!

At the new windmill
An old Eagle leaps into air
Bloody mess, despair

or

Kill an Eagle save
A world from mad men’s dreams
warmer world, despair
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Re: Bald Eagle Tragedy!

Post by lisa shaffer-gill »

The Cleveland Metroparks Facebook page reported some great news! Here is their post.

Rocky River Eagles Update:

Yesterday, official eagle watcher Lisa Romaniuk confirmed there is an eaglet in the bald eagle nest in Rocky River Reservation.

This is extremely exciting news and a very rare occurrence!!

Last week we received a report of a dead eagle and by consistent observation of the male eagle missing from the Rocky River eagle nest, it looked like the dead eagle was most likely the male eagle from the Rocky River nesting pair.

When the male dies in a nesting pair, it is very unlikely that the egg(s) will actually hatch because, out of necessity, the female must leave the nest to feed herself. While the female is away, the eggs are then not being incubated, reducing the chances for a successful hatching.

In very rare occasions, another male can step into the role when the original male from the pair dies or leaves, and this is what happened in the Rocky River nest. Luckily, the egg was incubated enough that it was still able to hatch.

We will keep everyone posted about the progress of the new pair and the youngster!

Enjoy some video of mom feeding her new baby: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZGaZ4Nq ... e=youtu.be
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