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michael gill
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Lakewood Jazz

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Lakewood is a great music town. Jim OB can tell you about the city's influence on punk, and anyone in tune with Cleveland music can tell you a vast number of working musicians live here. People you depend on to show your ears a good time when you go out, like Ernie Krivda, whose Fat Tuesday Big Band is playing Vosh these days, to most of the folks in the Revolution Brass Band, and scores of others.

But Lakewood's got some serious musical bench, too.

I went out to the Lakewood Jazz Festival last night, with my lovely wife and in-laws. We went to see our son and the Harding jazz band play with their counterparts from Garfield and the High School. Sure, having a kid play the drum kit in a band can color your impression, and may cause some of you to think my assessment here is tinged with a “conflict of interest.” So in a nod to Jim OB, and to anyone else whose mind is burdened by the idea of “professional journalism” and “objectivity,” let me just acknowledge that I'm speaking here as a parent and a Lakewood taxpayer.

It's probably also appropriate to note, in the interest of full disclosure, that my lovely wife is a teacher at Lakewood High School. She has nothing to do with the music department, however.

With that out of the way, I've just got to say I'm truly impressed with what the schools do with music programs. I grew up in North Olmsted and went to private schools, including a big one down in Ohio City, but I was never exposed to anything like the level of student musical accomplishment we take for granted in Lakewood. Our middle schoolers play jazz, for goodness sake. Their teachers meet them at 7:30 in the morning two or three days a week leading this as an extracurricular activity, and they learn to read scores like a second language. Our 7th and 8th graders play solos in front of crowds of people.

Our high school, in fact—in addition to the Lakewood Project, the Orchestra, the Marching Band, and the Concert Band, and several smaller instrumental and vocal ensembles-- fields no less than two jazz bands, both stocked with a couple dozen fluent players. We're not talking three chords in the same major key all the time. They play real jazz.

All those programs benefit from the extraordinary work of seasoned teachers. Mr Griebel just retired from the Harding program last year, turning it over to the capable Mr. Harris. Mr Maskow, who leads the high school jazz band, will retire at the end of this year. Ms. Tabaj is probably nowhere near retirement, but it was obvious from our seats that she's got a solid rapport and command of the Garfield band. Those are all some experienced, motivated, dedicated, talented teachers.

If you never hear any of the school bands but somehow have reached the end of this post, here's something else that illustrates the depth and thoughtfulness of Lakewood music education: The high school has built a program whereby student musicians offer free, one-on-one lessons to elementary kids. If you've got a fifth grader who plays cello, for example, you can sign up, and your child can meet weekly with a high school student musician for lessons. Building and maintaining a tutorial program like that is not the kind of thing that shows up on standardized tests, and neither does it figure into any of the ways teacher salary is determined. And truth be told, it would be hard to put a value –for either the high school student or the 5th grader—on those weekly, voluntary lessons. But we have some great music teachers to thank for setting that up. And as a parent, homeowner, and taxpayer, I think they are worth every penny.
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Terrific posting Michael.

It's great to see the Lakewood City School District receive recognition for their musical accomplishments in jazz.

And of course, as Michael alluded, the Lakewood schools are well known for cultivating student interest in other styles of music.

My father Robert Rice, (A Lakewood Schools Staff Hall of Fame member) taught band, orchestra, and choral music at Harding and the elementary buildings some 25 years preceding Brian Griebel. Those two teachers represent more than 50 years of continuous outstanding instrumental music education at Harding alone.

Now THAT'S continuity!

Dad, by the way, was a pioneer in electronic music and musical classroom innovation; inventing an illuminated overhead keyboard as well as a musical slide-rule. In his day, the Harding Jazz Band was regularly featured on local television shows, as well as numerous performances at many civic functions.

As regular Observers may know, Dad and I continue to volunteer with the Lakewood Schools music programs as we are able to, and next Wednesday evening, Dad and I have been invited to conduct and perform with the high school band in the American Veterans Last Salute March. (composed by Dad and me for all veterans)

The school version of that march was first performed by the band at Garfield several years ago for Lakewood Schools' Veterans' Recognition Breakfast. It will be the professional version that the high school will be performing. Director Maskow has prepared the students well for what promises to be a fantastic combined concert with the middle school bands.

Dad will be in his WWII uniform while directing the band. I will be in Revolutionary War regalia playing a period-correct battle drum, honoring the memory of America's longest lived veteran, John Shepherd (117 years plus) who is buried in North Royalton. Shepherd was a drummer and Revolutionary War combatant who was with George Washington throughout the Revolutionary War.

Lakewood Schools; an ongoing tradition of quality musical excellence!
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Michael Gill you musical SNOB.

While I appreciate Jazz, and all of the things you mention, this left me thinking back to some
off the cuffs comments you made about a brewery story! (I would use more, but I am sure
it would come with a lecture on improper use.

I love all the stuff you mention, and Vosh is quickly becoming a landmark place in Lakwood,
even the managers of Cleveland's east side "jazz club" Nightown were asking me about it
last week at lunch.

But this comment, made me wonder just how long you have considered Jazz "The music
form that is as much about the notes not played as those played" the preeminent form of
music, instead of just another side venture on the freeway of music.

Having seen enjoyed and collected many of the true pioneers of Jazz I appreciate all forms
of the genre from fusion to big band. And love it when people like Krivda, the Lakewood
Project or that slacker Diana Krall put it out there.

BUT...

michael gill wrote:
But Lakewood's got some serious musical bench, too.



Is it more serious to play and arrange someone else standards, that have been rehashed
for 30-90 years or invent a complete genre of music that goes worldwide and is still being
built upon using some of the same techniques that were first formulated in the basements
and garages of Graber, West Clifton, Kenneth, in the basement of the Phantasy or the
gymnasiums and churches around Lakewood.

:roll:

Carry on with your snobbery but please do so with a modicum of respect for pioneers of
the music industry. As I told another Lakewood Jazz legend decades ago, "Giving it all up
for a life of red beans, rice, cough syrup and heroin does not make you a famous jazz
musician, it merely makes you a junkie. So pick up the horn from the pawn shop, get a
day job and practice practice practice and maybe I will buy into your, 'It's not just the notes
played...' BS."

Carry on.

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Re: Lakewood Jazz

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Huh? :shock:

Seriously, Jazz is not about playing other people's music. It's about free-form melodic, rhythmic, and harmonic improvisation; usually over chordal changes.

(Come to think about it, "Punk" does that too :shock: )

In order to intelligently "jam", or improvise on an instrument, you do need to know some ground rules first.

While one style of music is not necessarily culturally "better" than another, at the same time, a given style can certainly be more complex than another, and that is very much the case with Jazz. Indeed, one can make the case that Jazz is reborn any time good Jazzers take to the stage, and indeed, Jazz is one of the most complex musical styles of performance out there today.

My grandmother, for example, was a fine pianist who could read anything put in front of her. She never learned the art of "improv", however. "Improv", (making music up as you go along) is the essence of Jazz. Her son, (my dad) was, and is, a superlative Jazz trumpet player who can still either read a "legit" (straight) book, or jazz it up, if need be. In my own case, although I'm well known as a banjo and guitar guy in other musical styles, my primary interests and talents were always with Jazz drumming.

Oh yeah, let's dispel the thought that substance abuse is always related to certain styles of music. While there have certainly been numerous reports of that sort of thing going on in the performing arts over the years- in music, as in life, there are all kinds of people. Dad and I have known many highly talented musicians from many musical backgrounds who have not abused their bodies with chemicals.

Back to the skins, man!

(A banjo, after all, is just a drum with a handle on it! :D )
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Gary Rice wrote:Huh? :shock:

Seriously, Jazz is not about playing other people's music. It's about free-form melodic, rhythmic, and harmonic improvisation; usually over chordal changes.

(Come to think about it, "Punk" does that too :shock: )



Gary

Right on brother, all music is equal.

I kid my good friend Michael Gill.

I had a friend that was jazz snob and he would often ridicule bluegrass. We as you well
know Gary, bluegrass can be some pretty wild and crazy stuff, and the similarities of the
two has been exploited by Bela Fleck, and Roy Clark to name just two.

Music is all about diversity and equality.

Play on my banjo toting friend, play on.




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I've always considered bluegrass as some of the most "headiest" music ever.
"So, let's make the most of this beautiful day.
Since we're together we might as well say:
Would you be mine? Could you be mine?
Won't you be my neighbor?"

~ Fred (Mr. Rogers) Rogers
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Re: Lakewood Jazz

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The State of Ohio v. Gary Rice





... note the hat at 0:38 ... and ... 3:30 ... and ... 3:38 ... and ... 3:48 ... and ... 3:53 ... and ... 4:25 ... and ... 4:33 ...
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Wow...

Way cool.

While I'd never admit that I might have TRIED to drive the bus around here... I don't think that I've had a ball cap with my name on it...yet. :D

The banjo is truly a wonderful instrument, having a mysterious, tragic, and often surprisingly eclectic history.

By the way, since this thread is drifting farther out than a derelict in the Bermuda Triangle, I might as well take this opportunity to invite any interested acoustic musicians who might be interested in participating in an informal song circle, to several of those that transpire monthly in this area.

Second Tuesdays: Concord Lutheran Home in Westlake 6:30-8:30 p.m.
Third Saturdays: Canalway Visitors Center, Metroparks 1-3 p.m.

You might catch me on the banjo, Dad on his fiddle, or any of a number of other well-known musicians who might drop by for a few informal hours of fun. Everyone from beginner to pro is always welcome to play, sing, or just sit and enjoy.

Some of us have been looking for a place around here to start one of those circles up, as well.

Music is indeed a seamless web, not only with the music itself, but with the friendships gained, the memories created, and the joys produced.

Dad and I are looking forward to seeing y'all next Wednesday at the all-bands concert at the Civic.

Let's bring it all back home here where it counts: :!:

Lakewood kids ROCK! :D

Back to whatever makes a little music! :D
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Gary Rice wrote:While I'd never admit that I might have TRIED to drive the bus around here... I don't think that I've had a ball cap with my name on it...yet. :D


Gary,

If the hat fits ... wear it! :wink:

The State rests its case.

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Re: Lakewood Jazz

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with all of the ho-hummy electric lawnmowers to be found onstage these days

let's not forget the local origins of the " unplugged," or gas powered mower sound

which Lakewood can truly call its own.
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russell dunn wrote:with all of the ho-hummy electric lawnmowers to be found onstage these days

let's not forget the local origins of the " unplugged," or gas powered mower sound

which Lakewood can truly call its own.



John D. Morton, also known in Columbus as "Ratboy" from the headline "Ratboy and Boobin."
Celebrates a birthday this Wednesday, which also reminds me of Paul Marrota's Poly Styrene
Jass Band project.

Where were you in 1972? Recently recognized as the first punk recording EVER!

John D Morton, Kenneth
Dave E McManus, Lewis Drive
Brian McMahon, Marlowe

They went through a string of drummers, best know was Nicholas George Stephanoff, from
Independence better known as "Nick Knox" drummer for the pyschobilly band "The Cramps."


Other famous leaders of the "punk movement" out of Lakewood. Brad Fields, drummer
for Lydia Lunch's Teenage Jesus and the Jerks.



Gene O'Connor aka Cheetah Chrome, and Stephan Bators aka Stiv of the Dead Boys,
Giel Avenue.



and the glue for so many of these bands CW Bell, in damn near everyone of these bands
when they needed a bass player they could count on. While his mainstay was Rocket
from the Tombs (who he still tours with). With CW on bass, Cheetah on Guitar, and
David Thomas aka Crocus Bohemouth Scene Magazine/Great Swamp Erie DaDa Boom,
and Pere Ubu on vocals.



and let's not forget the boy band "Nine Inch Nails" that used the basement at the Phantasy
Theaters as did many other bands to practice in their earliest days.


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Re: Lakewood Jazz

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Hmmm....

As I recollect, our fearless 'Deck Leader Jimmy used to refer to our collective musings here on the 'Deck as being "word jazz".

Well....

This has sure been one "jazzy" conversation, has it not? :D

Anyway, back to the topic at hand... :wink:

Remember Lakewood, to support your school music programs and the upcoming concerts. :D

Hoping that you will join Dad and me at the Civic for Wednesday (the 27th) evening's All-Band's concert, featuring Lakewood's middle school and high school bands. :D

Back to the battle drum! :D
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Gary Rice wrote:Hmmm....

As I recollect, our fearless 'Deck Leader Jimmy used to refer to our collective musings here on the 'Deck as being "word jazz".

Well....

This has sure been one "jazzy" conversation, has it not?


Gary

Yes it has! It is what the Deck is all about.

The correct term I use is "this mosh pit of word jazz"

The mosh pit is where punks slam together in dance of self expression and is a wonderful
bridge between love and violence as the collisions cause others to bump and get to know
each other forming new friendships that last from the length of time that a "Higgs" exist
to friendships that last decades.

The "Word Jazz" part is theft from one of the greatest talkers of all time. Jazz and voice
legend Ken Nordine, who I used to listen to every night as Billy Bass' show would end,
and the "Night Tripper's" show would kick of with "Breathe" by Ken Nordine.

The marriage of the two terms seemed perfect for what happens when good neighbors talk
over the digital fence.



I agree support Lakewood Schools and all of the arts programs.

Hell, all of their programs.

Support the levy!

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Just bumping this thread to the top today to remind everyone that if you're tired of the weather, the negativity on the news, or whatever else might be bothering you, please come to the Lakewood Schools Bands concert this evening at 7:30 at the Civic.

My father has been invited tonight to conduct our original "The American Veterans Last Salute March", which was first performed right here in Lakewood by the Garfield Band, and was later performed in the Washington D.C. area by the American Festival Pops Orchestra.

Dad and I received Congressional recognition for this march, as well as for our service to the community.

Dad (Robert Rice) was a Lakewood Schools music director from 1958-1983.

The band this evening will be doing Brian Kidd's challenging arrangement of that march. Kidd served as Staff Arranger for the United States Navy Band, and was that band's Chief Composer and Arranger. Returning to the point of this thread, Kidd also has a great background in jazz arranging, having written for the Glenn Miller and Tommy Dorsey Orchestras, among others, and his challenging rhythms are reflected in our Veterans March.

Dad will be in his WWII uniform, and I, in colonial garb playing drums, recognizing all veterans and particularly John Shepherd, America's longest lived vet- at 117 years, who was a drummer/soldier and was with George Washington through 11 campaigns of the Revolutionary War. Shepherd is buried in North Royalton.

Come and enjoy some exemplary performances by our Lakewood students!

Back to the battle drum! :D
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Re: Lakewood Jazz

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Thanks for reminding us of the student concerts tonight, Gary.

I meant no disrespect to the punks, of course. Of course that doesn't mean I'm not a snob. The only kind of "music" I like is "good music," so I very well may be a snob.

Ken Nordine is a treasure.

There's a lot going on tonight.
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