Benefits of a Businessman Candidate?
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Benefits of a Businessman Candidate?
For so long we got to hear about the advantages of having a businessman as president.
Businessman, Mitt Romney, ran a campaign with terrible market research, little attention to available technology, inconsistent product and message, ineffective marketing, even worse public relations, advertising to compensate for bad management and a feet-on-the-ground labor shortage, and well over a billion dollars spent for little impact on the outcome of the presidential race.
As someone who has spent his whole life working in the private business sector, it is my opinion that the Romney campaign was a failed business, like so many other poorly run businesses. Romney’s optimism was not grounded in the reality of the marketplace. Would your bank give you a business loan based on a similar display of management and judgment? Would you, as a consumer, buy a product or service with the promise of a description of its benefits the day after you bought it?
The Darwinian free-enterprise system just forced extinction of Romney’s non-viable enterprise. The presidency is in the hands of stronger, more rational, and more relevant leadership DNA.
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Businessman, Mitt Romney, ran a campaign with terrible market research, little attention to available technology, inconsistent product and message, ineffective marketing, even worse public relations, advertising to compensate for bad management and a feet-on-the-ground labor shortage, and well over a billion dollars spent for little impact on the outcome of the presidential race.
As someone who has spent his whole life working in the private business sector, it is my opinion that the Romney campaign was a failed business, like so many other poorly run businesses. Romney’s optimism was not grounded in the reality of the marketplace. Would your bank give you a business loan based on a similar display of management and judgment? Would you, as a consumer, buy a product or service with the promise of a description of its benefits the day after you bought it?
The Darwinian free-enterprise system just forced extinction of Romney’s non-viable enterprise. The presidency is in the hands of stronger, more rational, and more relevant leadership DNA.
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Re: Benefits of a Businessman Candidate?
Romney made his swag in the 80s era of leveraged buyouts.
the tvs were full of folks becoming tycoons with the new leveraged buyout paradigm.
easy credit when its in the tens of millions or hundreds of millions of dollars. mergers and acquisitions. and then scuttling or bankrupting a lot of enterprises.
perhaps if progressive taxes and corporate taxes were higher this would not be such a temptation.
but the magazines and newspapers and tv shows were mostly full of folks who succeeded spectacularly at this particular enterprise, or as functionaries to it.
the mills and factories received little lasting notice, but Reagan and his ilk were masterful at convincing folks they were getting back at the welfare queens. or something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnRpnejjcq0
the tvs were full of folks becoming tycoons with the new leveraged buyout paradigm.
easy credit when its in the tens of millions or hundreds of millions of dollars. mergers and acquisitions. and then scuttling or bankrupting a lot of enterprises.
perhaps if progressive taxes and corporate taxes were higher this would not be such a temptation.
but the magazines and newspapers and tv shows were mostly full of folks who succeeded spectacularly at this particular enterprise, or as functionaries to it.
the mills and factories received little lasting notice, but Reagan and his ilk were masterful at convincing folks they were getting back at the welfare queens. or something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnRpnejjcq0
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Re: Benefits of a Businessman Candidate?
stephen davis wrote:The Darwinian free-enterprise system just forced extinction of Romney’s non-viable enterprise. The presidency is in the hands of stronger, more rational, and more relevant leadership DNA.
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I always have to smile, when the system works.
What amazes me, is just how shallow the Republican talent pool is.
Laura Ingraham, "If the GOP can’t beat Obama in this economy, shut down the party."
A connected insider's view to the Republican talent pool.
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Re: Benefits of a Businessman Candidate?
if my memory serves me correctly,
Harry Truman owned a haberdashery early in his adulthood.
then there are distinctions between real industry, and finance and retail.
Harry Truman owned a haberdashery early in his adulthood.
then there are distinctions between real industry, and finance and retail.
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Re: Benefits of a Businessman Candidate?
Let's take a look at the harm done by the non-businessman president / community organizer. Canddidate Obama in 2008 promised to cut the National Debt in half. Instead of cutting the National Debt in half, he increased it by over $6 Trillion in under 4 years. Candidate Obama promised us low unemployment. Instead , high unemployment has become the norm. He promised not raise taxes. So, he gave us a healthcare tax that will cost this country about 800,000 jobs according to the CBO... and cost the uninsured poor people of this country more money in the form of a tax (penalty)... Obamacare doesn't provide health insurance. It just provides another revenue stream for the government.
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Stephen Eisel wrote:Let's take a look at the harm done by the non-businessman president / community organizer. Canddidate Obama in 2008 promised to cut the National Debt in half. Instead of cutting the National Debt in half, he increased it by over $6 Trillion in under 4 years. Candidate Obama promised us low unemployment. Instead , high unemployment has become the norm. He promised not raise taxes. So, he gave us a healthcare tax that will cost this country about 800,000 jobs according to the CBO... and cost the uninsured poor people of this country more money in the form of a tax (penalty)... Obamacare doesn't provide health insurance. It just provides another revenue stream for the government.
Dude
We are all sorry he underestimated the time it took to clean up the last president's mess.
That doesn't mean we give the keys back to the drunk to party on!
Could it be possible that Bush's people, the ones that started to talk with Obama and give
him briefings from the moment he announced running we wrong, or more like the entire
Bush Presidency WERE LYING about how bad they broke the country?
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Re: Benefits of a Businessman Candidate?
We are all sorry he underestimated the time it took to clean up the last president's mess.
Are you talking about Fannie and Freddie?
These Dems debate you like JOB.... Selective outrage.... False accusations and etc. The bottom line is their political ego's killed the economy..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yga7TlsA-1A
We had a chance to reform Fannie and Freddie. Dems lied and the economy died...
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Re: Benefits of a Businessman Candidate?
Stephen Eisel wrote:Let's take a look at the harm done by the non-businessman president / community organizer. Canddidate Obama in 2008 promised to cut the National Debt in half. Instead of cutting the National Debt in half, he increased it by over $6 Trillion in under 4 years. Candidate Obama promised us low unemployment. Instead , high unemployment has become the norm. He promised not raise taxes. So, he gave us a healthcare tax that will cost this country about 800,000 jobs according to the CBO... and cost the uninsured poor people of this country more money in the form of a tax (penalty)... Obamacare doesn't provide health insurance. It just provides another revenue stream for the government.
taxes and economic policy are pretty much the same as they've been for the last 30 years.
thanks to congressional gridlock, and perhaps Obama's own lack of priorities.
taxes and economic policy are certainly the same as they have been for the last 10 years.
So, when the opposition criticizes them, they are essentially criticizing their own policies.
this means, had McCain been elected, the national debt would have grown just as much.
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Re: Benefits of a Businessman Candidate?
taxes and economic policy are pretty much the same as they've been for the last 30 years.
thanks to congressional gridlock, and perhaps Obama's own lack of priorities.
taxes and economic policy are certainly the same as they have been for the last 10 years.
So, when the opposition criticizes them, they are essentially criticizing their own policies.
this means, had McCain been elected, the national debt would have grown just as much.
Crack is whack!!!! The increase to the National Debt under McCain would have been significantly less when compared to Obummer.. Stimulus 2, cash for clunkers, the auto bail-out, Obamacare, the green energy debacle, and a failure to lower energy cost are not the same ole same ole economic policies of the last 30 years. These are specific to Obama and his failure to bring about change..
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Re: Benefits of a Businessman Candidate?
the stimulus measures prevented the economy from falling much further.
McCain and company have the luxury of feinting opposition because they weren't in charge. had they been in charge there would have been two outcomes:
1: they would have done pretty much the same thing. perhaps with a slightly different set of variations, and failures to nitpick over.
2: they would have done not much of anything. and we'd have had not hoovervilles, but perhaps a shitload of people in bankowned properties the banks want nothing to do with, holed up with guns and big screen tvs.
McCain and company have the luxury of feinting opposition because they weren't in charge. had they been in charge there would have been two outcomes:
1: they would have done pretty much the same thing. perhaps with a slightly different set of variations, and failures to nitpick over.
2: they would have done not much of anything. and we'd have had not hoovervilles, but perhaps a shitload of people in bankowned properties the banks want nothing to do with, holed up with guns and big screen tvs.
"Is this flummery” — Archie Goodwin