Peter Corrigan's Depressing Night

[Valerie Molinski]

Kucinich ahead of Corrigan only by 4%??

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/den ... 08901.html

Dennis Menaced?
Is Kucinich in trouble?
9:53 AM, Oct 18, 2010 • By WILLIAM KRISTOLSingle Page

THE WEEKLY STANDARD has obtained the results of a private poll conducted last night in Ohio-10, the Cleveland-area district held for seven terms by Democrat Dennis Kucinich. Kucinich has been widely viewed as safe—even though he fell short of 60 percent of the vote in 2008, and the district has a Cook PVI of only Dem +8.


The poll (based on a small but respectable 319 person sample, with a margin of error of 5.6 percent, weighted to eliminate gender bias) shows Kucinich ahead of his opponent, Peter Corrigan, by only 4 percent. The profile of undecided voters suggests they may break for Corrigan by about 3-2. And Corrigan's 4 percent deficit turns into a 4 percent Corrigan lead when voters are given information on Kucinich's ties to corrupt local Democratic leaders, and on Kucinich's support for illegal immigration. These are signs that undecided voters could be pushed to go Corrigan’s way. Furthermore, Corrigan is running even with Kucinich among those who've already requested their absentee ballot, as early voting has already started in Ohio.

Corrigan is up on radio, but not on TV. He is doing direct mail to 150,000 households with persuadable voters. He has little cash on hand—but so does Kucinich (Kucinich had $88K to Corrigan's $35K at the end of the last filing period, and Kucinich outraised Corrigan in the 3rd quarter by only $30K).

Could be an interesting race for people to consider last minute contributions to—or even IE expenditures, perhaps focused on national security, where Kucinich’s militant hostility to American victory abroad, and to supporting the troops, is probably at odds with his blue-collar constituents.

[Jerry Ritcey]

Kristol's an idiot. "private" poll, hmm, can't put stock in that.

[Bill Call]

Kristol's an idiot. "private" poll, hmm, can't put stock in that.

I don't know about that. But I do know that Peter Corrigan is a solid candidate.

If our State is to compete, if our city is to prosper, if we are to reverse the decline and renew the region we need a congressmen who understands the world economy. Denis Kucinich is not that candidate.

During his meeting Mr. Corrigan touched on the subject of 99 weeks of unemployment pay.
He wasn't all that concerned about the extension but conceded that some on unemployment may tend to look a little less hard if they know they have an extra year of unemployment checks.

However, he was critical of the means used to fund the extension, a tax on the foreign earnings of American corporations if that income is repatriated to the United States.

$1 trillion in money earned by American corporations will not be invested in the United States. If they did invest it here it would be subject to a 35% tax. Most European countries do not tax that income.
That puts American companies and a big disadvantage.

[Jim O'Bryan]

Kristol's an idiot. "private" poll, hmm, can't put stock in that.

I don't know about that. But I do know that Peter Corrigan is a solid candidate.

If our State is to compete, if our city is to prosper, if we are to reverse the decline and renew the region we need a congressmen who understands the world economy. Denis Kucinich is not that candidate.

During his meeting Mr. Corrigan touched on the subject of 99 weeks of unemployment pay.
He wasn't all that concerned about the extension but conceded that some on unemployment may tend to look a little less hard if they know they have an extra year of unemployment checks.

However, he was critical of the means used to fund the extension, a tax on the foreign earnings of American corporations if that income is repatriated to the United States.

$1 trillion in money earned by American corporations will not be invested in the United States. If they did invest it here it would be subject to a 35% tax. Most European countries do not tax that income.
That puts American companies and a big disadvantage.

Bill

I think Dennis might be right of Corrigan and you.

WELL at least he was trying to stop this from allowing businesses to drift overseas.

Well at least he understands that just telling people to work does not work if there are no jobs!

During the boom years of this country, millionaires were taxed at 95%. Those were the golden boom
years, that have been eroded since Reagan.

Time to tighten up this country and make things right. Not sure the Rs and Ds are up to it, but Congressman
Kucinich is one of the few that have been on the right side of every issue you and I agree on. Why get rid of
him because he has had to deal with Rs in power that never listened or cared, and now are stopping everything
including his inquiry into the war in mid-east, predatory lending, unfair credit practices, off shores corps,
and every other thing that has gone wrong.

Bill this is not a game, we need to fix things NOW, not play more partisan BS games.

You are too smart to play this game.

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[Dave Mechenbier]

So Jim, just when were those golden boom years? I’d suggest they were long gone well before Reagan took office. I think the country has been gliding downward since the early seventies.

So let us know what period you are referring to?

Either Kucinich needs a better PR machine to tout his accomplishments or he is truly ineffective. I don’t give a damn if he’s right or wrong if he CAN’T even get his own party to back his investigations, inquiries or legislative ideas. Yes, I know it is only one vote, but he’s not getting mine

[Dave Mechenbier]

So Jim, just when were those golden boom years? I’d suggest they were long gone well before Reagan took office. I think the country has been gliding downward since the early seventies.

So let us know what period you are referring to?

Either Kucinich needs a better PR machine to tout his accomplishments or he is truly ineffective. I don’t give a damn if he’s right or wrong if he CAN’T even get his own party to back his investigations, inquiries or legislative ideas. Yes, I know it is only one vote, but he’s not getting mine

[Will Brown]

Bill

I think Dennis might be right of Corrigan and you.

WELL at least he was trying to stop this from allowing businesses to drift overseas.

Well at least he understands that just telling people to work does not work if there are no jobs!

During the boom years of this country, millionaires were taxed at 95%. Those were the golden boom
years, that have been eroded since Reagan.

Time to tighten up this country and make things right. Not sure the Rs and Ds are up to it, but Congressman
Kucinich is one of the few that have been on the right side of every issue you and I agree on. Why get rid of
him because he has had to deal with Rs in power that never listened or cared, and now are stopping everything
including his inquiry into the war in mid-east, predatory lending, unfair credit practices, off shores corps,
and every other thing that has gone wrong.

Bill this is not a game, we need to fix things NOW, not play more partisan BS games.

You are too smart to play this game.

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The federal income tax rate has never been 95%. It was 94% for only a couple of years, not a period of boom times, and since it is a marginal tax rate, the actual rate of tax was always materially less. And the highest rate has never relied on the taxpayer being a millionaire; they don't even ask what your net worth is on the return. It is levied on your income, and in many years hit earners with taxable income of $200,000, and even less (as one would expect with our history of induced inflation).

Your pulling "facts" out of wherever you get them colors your credibility.

The fact is that money, and talented people, will go wherever they can achieve the most fulfillment. So if a talented and highly paid person in Lakewood is hit with extortionate taxes or limits on how his talents can be used, the Bahamas will look pretty good, and Lakewood will be left with an empty house and no tax revenue.

[Jim O'Bryan]

So Jim, just when were those golden boom years? I’d suggest they were long gone well before Reagan took office. I think the country has been gliding downward since the early seventies.

So let us know what period you are referring to?

Either Kucinich needs a better PR machine to tout his accomplishments or he is truly ineffective. I don’t give a damn if he’s right or wrong if he CAN’T even get his own party to back his investigations, inquiries or legislative ideas. Yes, I know it is only one vote, but he’s not getting mine

Dave

Late 40s early 50s rates as high as 94% for married couples filing jointly. I still believe single, over $400,000
was at 95%. Of course as Will points out it does not include any of a host of ways to bring that down.

My point was, it did not seem to hold us back, and built many roads, dams and other civil projects. That put
food on the plate of many while building a solid base that we enjoyed right up until the blip with Carter, and
the Bush collapse.

As for as Kucinich do we really need more spin? Just so Dennis looks good? Or can we let a little common sense
and critical thinking come into play. I know critical thinking is not cool anymore but...

Food security, - while some would shut down the FDA, Kucinich stands alone pushing for testing of radiated
food and genetically engineered food. I mean should we know what blowfish poison genes when introduced to
corn to kill corn boles does to humans? Killer seeds for canola that stops them from breeding do to humans. and on and on.

Predatory Lending - Congressman Kucinich started the conversation based on what he was seeing in Cleveland
and how they were preying on certain sections of the city like Slavik Village, Collinwood, Lakewood, and even
in wealthier communities. Holding the Fed and the banks feet to the fire to explain the nightmare they were
causing. His inquiry has lead to litigation and changes.

War in Iraq - One of a small handful that has always said, Why overturn 200 years of history to start a war
that never needed to be fought, and we had no reason to go. That alone would pull 2 Trillion off the debt
books, and put this country into a far safer and healthier state. He believed in this so much, that when the
Democrats folded like cheap suits and said, we will craft a way to take over the war and manage it, he walked
out of the caucus, and once again announced running for president. Not for the PR, not for the trips to LA
but to save the rustbelt billions that could have been better spent on schools, infrastructure, or saved. I was
actually around when this happened. His entire crew had said, no chance of him running again, he was able
to say what he needed last time. Next day he walked out and announced on the steps.

I would think something we can all understand is that running for president is a great way to get a message
out, and try to steer a conversation. His point was and still is the war was illegal, and far worse than the
The Pueblo lies, and the war that followed. Did he think he would win, no, did he think he could keep the war
its illegalities, and what it was costing us in the spotlight, YES. I was actually speaking with a senator a couple
months ago about the War. I asked why we went to war and he flat out said we were lied to by the
administration. When asked about bringing the liars to trail he said the same thing we always hear. "The
country has no stomach for long trials." As his party now gets ready to desperately to to impeach Obama for
not being an R.

I can't answer for why he does not get support, but show me where he was wrong, and was not putting the
country and the 10th District first. That is why we elect these people, I hope it is not to get bridges to
nowhere.

FWIW



Will

If the difference between 95% and 94% ruins my credibility than...


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[Will Brown]

94% during two war years (1944 and 1945), a time when thousands of young Americans were risking and losing their lives, is a far cry from "the boom years of this country, millionaires were taxed at 95%. Those were the golden boom
years, that have been eroded since Reagan.", except in a very macabre way.

As for Kucinich, I don't see an upside in what he had done since he was elected. His sole talent seems to be generating publicity for himself, usually be making noises about obscure issues, which rarely seems to lead to resolution of those issues. His participation in the work of congress appears to be nonexistent; hasn't he run up an attendance rate that is among the lowest ever? If we are serious about straightening out the mess that washington has become, replacing Kucinich would be a good first step.

I still think this is a dead issue, as our district is on the short list for elimination. So where do you think Kucinich will pop up if defeated, or if the district is closed? I think he'll give lobbying a go.

[ryan costa]

all candidates who support free trade have no value.
Mexico is worse off for its free trade agreements, but some of its plutocrats and some minority of the population are a bit better off.
Microsoft agrees to sell software to China for Pennies on the dollar: that is microsofts right.
China or Mexico are not cheating on their "end of the deal". Only Americans have been cheated by American congressmen, American lobbyists, and American pundits.

American history proves there was plenty enough trade when tariffs were pretty high.

American history proves you should probably raise progressive income taxes when you're engaged in wars or some preoccupation with being "global superpower". That is why mainstream conservatives have no value, tea party conservatives have no value, and extremist conservatives have no value.

Nobody wants to get too loud about saying Bush bullshitted america into invading Iraq: they know Fox News would simply deflect that criticism against "the troops".

[Bill Call]

Nobody wants to get too loud about saying Bush bullshitted america into invading Iraq: they know Fox News would simply deflect that criticism against "the troops".

Way back in the 1960's I recall my grandfather and his brother (both born in Italy)arguing about the Italian invasion of Ethiopia. It was a very spirited argument. I don't recall any arguments about events of the day. They saved their passion for the past.

This election is not about the past it is about the future.

Dennis Kucinich is a man who lives in the past and looks to the past.

Peter Corrigan is a man who lives in the present and looks to the future.

Forward or backward? The choice is yours.

[Stephen Eisel]

Nobody wants to get too loud about saying Bush bullshitted america into invading Iraq: they know Fox News would simply deflect that criticism against "the troops".

Wow, I thought that BDS Syndrome was eradicted on 1-20-2009.

[Stephen Eisel]

Microsoft agrees to sell software to China for Pennies on the dollar: that is microsofts right.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/ ... index2.htm

[Paul Schrimpf]

[quote]Food security, - while some would shut down the FDA, Kucinich stands alone pushing for testing of radiated
food and genetically engineered food. I mean should we know what blowfish poison genes when introduced to
corn to kill corn boles does to humans? Killer seeds for canola that stops them from breeding do to humans. and on and on.[/quote]

OK, putting on my agriculture hat now:

I love ya, Jim, but this is unadorned bullcrap. I've spent the last dozen years working in agriculture media, and I have no idea what any of what you just said means. Corn Boles? What the hell is a corn bole? A cotton plant makes a "boll", thus the pest "Boll Weevil." There are corn earworms and rootworms, which biotech Bt crops help control ... is that what you mean? I try to explain to my contacts in agriculture what I am up against here in the city, but this surpasses anything I've relayed to them thus far.

In early research there was exploration of many genes, including one from a fish. That reasearch came and went years ago. The sterile seed producing terminator gene was discovered and dismissed years ago because of outcry from farmers, the public, and regulators.

FDA and EPA do monitor this stuff. We need strength in both. Farmers desire the credibility that good regulation provide. What idiot would shut these down?

If Dennis really wants to create meaningful change, he should be pushing for funding for traceability technology so that we can track food all the way back from table to field in a matter of hours and days, not weeks when food scares occur.

[Jim O'Bryan]

I love ya, Jim, but this is unadorned bullcrap. I've spent the last dozen years working in agriculture media, and I have no idea what any of what you just said means. Corn Boles? What the hell is a corn bole? A cotton plant makes a "boll", thus the pest "Boll Weevil." There are corn earworms and rootworms, which biotech Bt crops help control ... is that what you mean? I try to explain to my contacts in agriculture what I am up against here in the city, but this surpasses anything I've relayed to them thus far.

In early research there was exploration of many genes, including one from a fish. That reasearch came and went years ago. The sterile seed producing terminator gene was discovered and dismissed years ago because of outcry from farmers, the public, and regulators.

FDA and EPA do monitor this stuff. We need strength in both. Farmers desire the credibility that good regulation provide. What idiot would shut these down?

If Dennis really wants to create meaningful change, he should be pushing for funding for traceability technology so that we can track food all the way back from table to field in a matter of hours and days, not weeks when food scares occur.

Paul

Can show you the documentary, and the studies. Worm, ok, I am not a farmer.

As for the killer seed it is alvie and well in Cananda, and coming back courtesy of our
friends Monsanto. There was not as big as cry as you make out. Famile farms are now
just a speck in the sea of corporate farms, many dutch owned.

For all I know Congressman Kucinich is working on this, or not. I do know he is one of
very few that even understand the concept of food security.

FWIW

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