Dimoria mentioned Fitzgerald being in Inditment?

[Shelley Hurd]

http://www.woio.com/global/video/popup/ ... ews&h1=RAW: Disgraced County Commissioner Jimmy Dimora Goes Off After Arraignment&flvUri=&partnerclipid=


At Approximately minute 4:59-5:18 of the above 19 action news video, Dimoria states, as he holds up the inditement," Ed Fitzgeralds in here"

Is Dimoria refering to Fitzgerald being PO7 or maybe PO 14? Or.......

[Shelley Hurd]

After a quick read of the indictment, PO14 seems the most likely to be Fitzgerald.

And the alledged issue related to and involving Mr. Fitzgerald appears to be related to the Winterherst deal

[Jim DeVito]

I also believe in that same news cast (or maybe some other one) Fitz's on camera saying he did just what he was supposed to do.

Massive paraphrase "his people called me to talk about it. I said call city hall"

That seems to be all there is to it.

[Danielle Masters]

Channel 19 did a story last night on Fitzgerald and Winterhurst. It was laughable and I did consider the source but I also found myself yelling at the TV when they stated all it took was a phonecall and suddenly Winterhurst was being leased out. I guess they didn't do too much research because 2 separate city committees looked at the Winterhurst issue well before Fitzgerald was mayor and I can't remember the exact dates but I know it was several years ago. We went on a fieldtrip out to the Iceland facility in Strongsville and I know for certain that neither Mr. DiMora nor Mr. Fitzgerald were there swaying the group.

[Bill Call]

Channel 19 did a story last night on Fitzgerald and Winterhurst. It was laughable and I did consider the source but I also found myself yelling at the TV when they stated all it took was a phonecall and suddenly Winterhurst was being leased out.

Winterhurst was a money losing operation when the schools ran it and it was a money losing operation when the City ran it. Discussions about the fate of Winterhurst took place over a number of years during two seperate administrations.

What's the deal?

Instead of subsidizing Winterhurst the City receives $75,000 per year in income.
Instead of having to issue bonds to do millions of dollars in improvements the private operator paid for the improvements.

At the end of the lease term the City still owns the facility.

I find whenever I have personal knowledge of an issue the local news professionals get something wrong. You get a better product from the amateurs.

I'm sure the mud will fly on this issue and that is unfortunate.

[stephen davis]

Channel 19 did a story last night on Fitzgerald and Winterhurst. It was laughable and I did consider the source but I also found myself yelling at the TV when they stated all it took was a phonecall and suddenly Winterhurst was being leased out.

Winterhurst was a money losing operation when the schools ran it and it was a money losing operation when the City ran it. Discussions about the fate of Winterhurst took place over a number of years during two seperate administrations.

What's the deal?

Instead of subsidizing Winterhurst the City receives $75,000 per year in income.
Instead of having to issue bonds to do millions of dollars in improvements the private operator paid for the improvements.

At the end of the lease term the City still owns the facility.

I find whenever I have personal knowledge of an issue the local news professionals get something wrong. You get a better product from the amateurs.

I'm sure the mud will fly on this issue and that is unfortunate.

Bill,

Your best post EVER.

Thanks.

Steve

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[Jim DeVito]

I'm going to jump on the best post bandwagon. I think you pointed out how the deal worked out for the city. Thanks Bill i was unaware.

[Bill Call]

I'm going to jump on the best post bandwagon. I think you pointed out how the deal worked out for the city. Thanks Bill i was unaware.

Source?

[Charlie Page]

I find whenever I have personal knowledge of an issue the local news professionals get something wrong. You get a better product from the amateurs.

I'm sure the mud will fly on this issue and that is unfortunate.

There’s a lot of people who have this personal knowledge. The Winterhurst deal has been public for a long time.

It’s too bad the local news doesn’t report all the facts but tries, endlessly sometimes, to make something out of nothing. Either they don’t know all the facts (and don’t bother getting them) or they do and hold them back to create a story that’s not there (not sure which is worse). Then when the facts are subsequently known they don’t follow up so the uninformed are left uninformed.

Selective reporting, creating hype for ratings, shoddy journalism...truly unfortunate, but that’s our world today.

I wonder which one of Fitzgerald’s opponents will be the first to attempt to capitalize on this?

[Shelley Hurd]

Fitzgerald, "said he commissioned a review of the Winterhurst deal after he learned that Neiheiser was under investigation,"...
http://www.cleveland.com/countyincrisis ... _fron.html



WERE CITY FUNDS used to pay to have the Winterhurst deal looked into? (The commisioned review After the deal was done as refered to above. Not before hand)

IF so, why?

If so how much?

Were city funds used to defend Canadite Fitzgerald? Or the City of Lakewood?


Is it allowable? Is this normal proceedure?

[Danielle Masters]

Shelley there should be be at least two committee reports on Winterhurst. I am sure they are available, you could contact Mary Hagan I am sure she would know how you could go about getting those reports.

[dl meckes]

An incredulous Dimora was shocked that Ed FitzGerald's name was in the indictment.

To some extent, I think you're no-one if your name wasn't mentioned, but it was plain from Dimora's interview, that he was unhappy.

TV is interesting in the way stories are edited.

Nobody puts FitzGerald in a corner.

[Shelley Hurd]

Cuyahoga County’s corruption scandal has touched almost every corner of county service except the Prosecutor’s Office. That will change in the coming weeks, according to sources with close ties to county politics. Mason is expected to resign by the second week of October, the sources say. Federal charges against him are expected within the next two months.

“There’s a reason why they’re not included [in the federal indictments] at this point,” says one of the sources, who spoke with Scene on condition of anonymity. “They’re collecting more information.”( http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/sou ... id=2097622 )

..."according to Scene sources, Mason played his own role for years, using his political power to rally support for himself and his favored candidates, basing hiring decisions on volunteer efforts, and keeping shadow employees on the county payroll."( http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/sou ... id=2097622 )


This story just keeps getting more interesting. And closer to "Lakewood".

[Shelley Hurd]

County Commissioner Jimmy Dimora will be allowed to continue doing his job as he defends himself against a slew of corruption-related charges, but with major restrictions on what he can vote on and with whom he can speak.
( http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/09 ... incart_hbx )

The judge's order means Dimora cannot vote on any issue involving: personnel; private contractors referenced in his indictment; the county's juvenile justice center; the county engineer's office; companies providing halfway house services; funding for the county courts; unions or union members; and matters related Parma, Lakewood, Bedford, Solon and Berea.
( http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/09 ... incart_hbx )


Despite the restrictions on voting, Dimora said after the hearing that he will still be very active because most of the business that comes before the county has to do with health and human services.
( http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/09 ... incart_hbx )

Didnt "Lakewood" contract out its Health and Human Services to the "County" ?

[dl meckes]

I attended at least one of the council meetings where smart and lengthy studies had been made regarding saving a Lakewood asset called Winterhurst.

A citizen committee made a great start understanding the situation and making suggestions.

It was neither the first or the last group to study the situation.

Usually citizens serve on these groups, boards and commissions. They are only paid in the great accolades of a grateful general public.

Ed FitzGerald was not mayor, but was a council member at some of the early meetings. He had not announced his interest in the top job.

I heard that all the council members played rock, paper, and scissors in a closed session, to see which would get the big bucks from Jimmy DiMora and the Winterhurst developers. That's probably why you see the FitzGerald children dressed in furs.

I did begin to wonder about the daisy chain of campaign funding, because it seems like every Democrat in a 20 mile area passes the same funds from one campaign to the next.

I'm sorry I did not manage to connect myself in some way that would line my pockets, like every breathing Dem in Cuyahoga County except Tim Hagan.

I heard they'd written checks to him, but they couldn't remember how to spell his name.