Surprise Surprise- Radical Judge At Work

[Danielle Masters]

Ok, don't we have more important things in this country to worry about? I know that churches and people who are insecure in themselves like to use sex to control others but enough is enough. This has been going on forever and it's time it ends. If two consenting adults choose to marry and happen to both be of the same sex, who cares. It doesn't affect any of us and frankly it's not my business who loves who. The fact is that homosexuals will still continue to love one another and continue to love each other even if it's deemed illegal. Do we really want to be like radical muslim states?

It irks me in this time of financial stress that so much time, effort and money is being wasted because some people are so preoccupied with what other people are doing in their bedrooms. Heck just think of the revenue that could be produced by allowing gays to marry and also in that allowing them to divorce. We all need to grow up and keep our noses out of other people's affairs especially when they do not impact our own quality of life.

I am not advocating that churches must be forced to marry anyone, I am merely stating that marriage is a legal right that should be afforded to any two consenting adults if they want it.

As for this idea of helping the minority, the rights of the minority must be protected or else this country will lose it's principles.

Let's just move on be adults and for those of you who are Christians if you truly believe that homosexuality is a sin then let God worry about it, it's not your place to judge.

[David Lay]

Let's just move on be adults and for those of you who are Christians if you truly believe that homosexuality is a sin then let God worry about it, it's not your place to judge.

[Ryan Salo]

Danielle,

I am curious what your thoughts on sex education are? Do you want gay sex and fisting and anal oral taught to your 3rd graders? What about orgies? If you really study the homosexual lifestyle it isn't just about 2 loving adults, it is about sexually deviant behavior that is destructive to society. you want that as part of elementary school education? It will be, heck it will be illegal for it not to be.

This is a dangerous lifestyle - that is why the life expectancy for gay males is so low. Here is an interesting article. "The Health Risks of Gay Sex." WARNING - Not for the weak stomach, some stuff is pretty gross.

http://www.corporateresourcecouncil.org ... _Risks.pdf

To me this isn't about 2 consenting adults, it is about the attempt to normalize abnormal behavior and then, because it is legal, indoctrinate our kids.

Don't be short sighted - this is dangerous to our society as a whole.

I think that if a gay man is dying, his partner should be able to see him, and have other rights. Individual rights do not normalize a behavior like allowing gay marriage will.

[David Lay]

Here's another reason to overturn the gay marriage ban: Domestic abusers are using the ban to skirt domestic violence charges:

http://www.woio.com/global/story.asp?s=2902289

[Danielle Masters]

Ryan, first of all here in Lakewood we do not have sex ed in elementary school so I'm not worried about my children being indoctrinated. My children understand that many people see homosexuality as a sin and they know their father and I disagree on this issue so we have this little thing in our house called conversations. Sometimes being a parent means having to tackle tough discussions but the day I gave birth I signed up for having tough talks with my kids.

Once again Lakewood does not have sex ed in elementary school, they have a human development course in 5th grade that basically explains that our bodies change and what not, personally I think the topic is covered a bit too late because by that point many girls especially have already started menstruating. But that is another topic for another day. I just spoke to my 14 year old and you can rest assured that homosexuality and love making has not been discussed in his classes.

Personally the most sexually deviant people I know happen to be straight. I don't know any gays that are out there trying to teach my kids about gay sex. I'm sorry that you are so worried about such things, really your fears are irrational. Trust your own parenting skills, trust your own morals, raise up your children to be responsible adults and don't worry at least here in Lakewood no one will be teaching your children such things.

These fears are irrational plain and simple. Allowing gays to marry does not open these flood gates, it merely allows all people the same rights to marry and be afforded the same legal protection as straight folks. Really come on let's be reasonable adults, no one is going to force gay sex on you or your kids, this is about giving everyone legal protection.

[Ryan Salo]

I am not concerned for my kids, but thanks for your concern. It is called moral decay. My fears are not irrational. Did you read that article? Have you seen the studies? Saying "Personally the most sexually deviant people I know happen to be straight" doesn't make it true or false, people invest a lot of time doing research and the results are disturbing.

Please answer my question if you wouldn't mind.

"Do you want gay sex and fisting and anal oral taught to your 3rd graders? What about orgies?"

The question wasn't will it happen it was do you want this taught? You can say Lakewood doesn't have this education yet but that doesn't mean much. Do you know how quickly that could change?

[David Lay]

"Do you want gay sex and fisting and anal oral taught to your 3rd graders? What about orgies?"

Ryan, that doesn't make sense. I didn't get sex ed until 6th grade.

Also, many states/school systems have the option to opt out of sex ed. If you don't like the curriculum, then opt out.

[Ryan Salo]

http://helenair.com/news/local/educatio ... 03286.html

David,

I agree with you this doesn't make sense. Unfortunately a lot of what is going on today doesn't make sense.

We need to prevent these things from progressing.

[David Lay]

Nice try, Ryan. I said your statement about teaching children in the 3rd grade about gay sex, fisting, orgies didn't make sense. I don't know of any school system that teaches sex ed in the 3rd grade.

Besides, what if you don't talk about it? NOT talking about it puts teens (gay, straight or otherwise) at the risk of contracting STDs.

http://www.womensenews.org/story/educat ... ed-classes

Again, if you don't like the curriculum, you have the option to opt your child out.

[Danielle Masters]

Ryan, you live in the same district as I do. You live right down the street from me, we live in the same bubble. None of our children will be learning of such things in the Lakewood schools.

[Bryan Schwegler]

Once again David, we are talking about in the eyes of most people. Just because liberal activists have temporary given in to this agenda doesn't make things OK. Morality is not effected by the changing of laws. When slavery was allowed it was still wrong.

Ryan, you keep saying "most people" but where's your facts to back that up? All the data including the most recent Gallup polling that is done annually on those topic show over 50% of Americans approve and the trend is moving further in that direction. As a matter of fact, the only group who has a majority against were those over 60, while under 35 had 70% approval.

So you don't really have either facts nor popular momentum on your side.

The majority also thought slavey and not allowing women to vote was appropriate also.

[Ryan Salo]

David - Did you read the article I posted? Come on...

This IS starting happen.

Wow.

[Bryan Schwegler]

I am not concerned for my kids, but thanks for your concern. It is called moral

Moral decay is alive and well in your behavior towards other people and ridiculous accusations in this thread. No need for gay people to do that for you.

And BTW a really quick Google search will easily show you that fisting, and all the other things you brought up are certainly alive and well in the straight world. Oh and don't forget bestiality tends to be a pretty big hetero thing. Don't give gays all the sexual innovation credit.

[Ryan Salo]

Bryan,

You can have your "polls". Here are real numbers. This is why I can say "most people"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_de ... ns_by_type

When people vote in secret they vote their beliefs. Phone polls are never accurate, just look at the last couple elections.

The mass media is trying to convince people this movement is working, when in reality it is only activist judges that are moving the agenda forward. When given to the voice of the people it doesn't work, at least not yet. Maybe it will in the future, and that will be a sad day.

Please stop comparing your beliefs to slavery, it doesn't work.

[Ryan Salo]

Bryan,

And there it is.... I am a hater!! I love these arguments. Typical liberal strategy.

That is why phone polls are not accurate, people do not want to be viewed as a "hater" for not agreeing with deviant behaviors.

Night all, I have said what I believe and backed it up with research and numbers and haven't called anyone any names.