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Ryan Patrick Demro
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RAIN TAX

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This quote came from today's PD article about the Northeast Regional Sewer District Board's approval of a new rain tax:

"Lyndhurst Mayor Joe Cicero, one of those speaking against the plan, said it was flawed because residents and businesses in a number of communities, such as Lakewood and Euclid, won't be charged because they process their own sewage and aren't part of the district. Sewer officials hope that other communities will voluntarily join."

Mayor Cicero needs to stay out of our governance. This is exactly the type of hegemony that regionalism will bring to Lakewood. Message to City Council:

Lakewood does not need to "voluntarily" tax itself for this. Keep in mind we have a school levy coming...
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Re: RAIN TAX

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Ryan Patrick Demro wrote:Mayor Cicero needs to stay out of our governance. This is exactly the type of hegemony that regionalism will bring to Lakewood. Message to City Council:

Lakewood does not need to "voluntarily" tax itself for this. Keep in mind we have a school levy coming...


A move is afoot to raise Lakewood's property taxes to pay for Solon's sewer problems:

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/12 ... _to_h.html
Shelley Hurd
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Re: RAIN TAX

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Bill Call
A move is afoot to raise Lakewood's property taxes to pay for Solon's sewer problems:

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/12 ... _to_h.html
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Bill,

What do you know about "First Suburbs Coalition" And whats your opinion of their vision?
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Shelley Hurd wrote:Bill,

What do you know about "First Suburbs Coalition" And whats your opinion of their vision?


I don't know anything about it except that it exists. I don't see anything in the papers or on the news which probably means they don't make much news.

What that tells me is that the group is powerless and ineffective.

My wild guess is that they don't have any idea why their cities are struggling.

Where were they when the State transferred $200 million in stimulus money from Cuyahoga County to Athens Ohio?

Where were they when the State made the decision to use $200 miillion in highway funds to widen freeways instead of using the money to develop new or improved freeway exits in the heart of cuyahoga county?

I could go on and on. The point is: they thought the battle was won when they had their first meeting so then they went home.

The only stimulus money Lakewood got was about $1 million for homeless prevention funds. When it was pointed out that Lakewood had no homeless MHS and the City of Cleveland relocated Tremont's homeless to Lakewood. I guess that's call innovative thinking.
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Re: RAIN TAX

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Bill Call wrote:The point is: they thought the battle was won when they had their first meeting so then they went home.


priceless


Bill Call wrote:When it was pointed out that Lakewood had no homeless MHS and the City of Cleveland relocated Tremont's homeless to Lakewood. I guess that's call innovative thinking.


Bill


I remember sitting through a meeting at the Beck Center, where the conversation
kept coming back to wanting to be just like Tremont. Maybe someone was listening.

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Shelley Hurd
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Re: RAIN TAX

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After being asked to take a peek at them (First Suburbs), beboping around lead me to this:

http://blog.efficientgovnow.org/?p=62

32. City of Bay Village, City of Rocky River, City of Westlake, City of Fairview Park, City of Lakewood and City of North Olmsted
The Westshore Council of Governments intends to collectively hire a sustainability manager to plan and implement sustainable practices in the six member cities. The goal is to increase efficiency, reduce costs and reduce the communities’ carbon footprint.

36. City of Bay Village, City of Fairview Park, City of Lakewood, City of North Olmsted, City of North Ridgeville, City of Rocky River and City of Westlake
The Westshore Council of Governments is working toward a comprehensive regionalization of its entire Fire and EMS operations, which covers more than 75 square miles and serves more than 250,000 residents. The intent of the fire district is to provide the most cost effective solution to the emergency needs of its constituents by utilizing the economies of scale corporate model. By autumn of 2009, partners expect to employ an experienced firm to direct the multifaceted regional fire district transition, and would use funding toward that end.


This stuff might be old news to you folks. But to me, this stuff is new and revealing as to why old Lakewood needed to be destroyed. And offers insight into the end game of whats already underway for our little community.

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