2 Terrorist Attacks on US soil since Obama took office

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ryan costa
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Re: 2 Terrorist Attacks on US soil since Obama took office

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Bill Call wrote:I wonder...

Obama has continued the war in Iraq
Expanded the war in Afgahnistan
Expanded the war in Pakistan
Started a new war in Yemen
Kept Gitmo open
Kept the patriot act

Where is the anti-war left? Did they really care about those things or was it all about politics?


Are those the things you had wanted a Presidential candidate to do?

The Wars are over. it is simply an expensive and occasionally deadly occupation.
America is no more likely to stop the "war" than it is to stop convenience store robberies in america.
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Stephen Eisel
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Re: 2 Terrorist Attacks on US soil since Obama took office

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ryan costa wrote:
Bill Call wrote:I wonder...

Obama has continued the war in Iraq
Expanded the war in Afgahnistan
Expanded the war in Pakistan
Started a new war in Yemen
Kept Gitmo open
Kept the patriot act

Where is the anti-war left? Did they really care about those things or was it all about politics?


Are those the things you had wanted a Presidential candidate to do?

The Wars are over. it is simply an expensive and occasionally deadly occupation.
America is no more likely to stop the "war" than it is to stop convenience store robberies in america.



Dustin James
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Re: 2 Terrorist Attacks on US soil since Obama took office

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Here is something about the pressure to release or treat the Gitmo enemy combatants with rights retained by US citizens. Some among us think that it's okay to project our values onto people who could care less. It's anthropomorphism at it's finest (yeah, look it up) :wink:

It is amazing that they want to bring these people to the continental U.S. Even more coincidental that the place they chose was Illinois for what, $100 million? Just an amazing coincidence.
Clicky = http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091231/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_guantanamo_al_qaida

Just sayin'

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ryan costa
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Re: 2 Terrorist Attacks on US soil since Obama took office

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Obama has continued the war in Iraq
Expanded the war in Afgahnistan
Expanded the war in Pakistan
Started a new war in Yemen
Kept Gitmo open
Kept the patriot act


Are these things you want America to do, or to not do?
Has a "War" been started in Yemen?
Was the U.S.Invasion of Panama something you would call a War?
has there even been an invasion of Yemen yet?
Do you want the U.S. to invade Yemen, or not invade Yemen?
"Is this flummery” — Archie Goodwin
ryan costa
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Re: 2 Terrorist Attacks on US soil since Obama took office

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Dustin James wrote:Here is something about the pressure to release or treat the Gitmo enemy combatants with rights retained by US citizens. Some among us think that it's okay to project our values onto people who could care less. It's anthropomorphism at it's finest (yeah, look it up) :wink:

It is amazing that they want to bring these people to the continental U.S. Even more coincidental that the place they chose was Illinois for what, $100 million? Just an amazing coincidence.
Clicky = http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091231/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_guantanamo_al_qaida

Just sayin'

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The U.S. has signed onto stuff like the Geneva Conventions. have we signed out of it since then?

Who are these enemy combatants? What is "War"? What are the conditions by which a War ends?

A war is something between Nations. The 'Enemy combatants' represent no existing government or nation. If they are simply criminals captured in Afghanistan or Iraq. They should be held in Afghanistan and Iraq and tried by the new governments of Afghanistan or Iraq. Al Queda represents no nation that exists or did exist.

When the War is over, the prisoners go home. In the American Civil War, the Southernors did not share our values: they did not value freedom or human life as good as we did. After the war Confederate Prisoners of War were released to the South, where some of them got into the habit of terrorizing freed blacks. these terrorists were then simply criminal citizens. The Confederate Government did no longer exist. In World War II, after the war, most of the POWs go home. A few officers and statesmen are tried, but most of the grunts and lower officers go home.

There is no war in Japan or Korea. We could be bringing all the troops home from Japan and Korea. Or shipping them to Afghanistan or Yemen for the next 60 years.
"Is this flummery” — Archie Goodwin
Stephen Eisel
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Re: 2 Terrorist Attacks on US soil since Obama took office

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A war is something between Nations
and Pizza companies.. just sayin
Roy Pitchford
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Re: 2 Terrorist Attacks on US soil since Obama took office

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Stephen Eisel wrote:
A war is something between Nations
and Pizza companies.. just sayin

Or soft drink companies...
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ryan costa
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Re: 2 Terrorist Attacks on US soil since Obama took office

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Manuel Noriega is held in the continental U.S. as some kind of prisoner of some kind of war.

may as well bring the Gitmo guys here. or send them back to afghanistan or iraq for trial of crimes committed against our new legitimate governments of Iraq and Afghanistan.

In Afghanistan is a government weak enough to drown in the bathtub. In Afghanistan is the kind of government Liberterian Elitists occasionally witness for.
"Is this flummery” — Archie Goodwin
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