Obamanomics - Using Law As An Instrument Of Plunder

[Jim O'Bryan]

You must have had a few counterfeits? Need to learn to spot those. Maybe on that road trip to Massachusetts, you can swing by Canada and pickup a few real ones because I certainly wouldn’t have any in my possession right now. Monetcristo No2’s are good. Cohiba Esplendido’s are better. That reminds me, I have to put some solution in my humidor.

I am more of a Vancouver man myself. Though Montreal does have some fine clubs.


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[Stephen Eisel]

Over rated cigars?

Ask Ryan if they are overrated?

Oh, the politics are bad, but the cigars

Stephen, first which one? The Blackwell Republican Lt.? Or the one that
still thinks the war and GWB were great ideas?

See there is the critical thinking thingy, when we talk of this.

The Cuban cigar taste better only because it is illegal, in theory.

The true fact is, even Cigar Efficando put them down on the list unless offered from the JFK cigar box.

Bill

You do realize that it is Che Guevara on those shirts and flags?



A better known image of Che.



Honestly, you have to expect the poor, the left behind, those that need help, and those without the homes you have would gravitate to individuals such as this.

This is but one small part of the problem of the growing difference in rich and poor with no middle ground. It is a strong middle class with a ladder from poor to the top, like the one traveled by our new president, that keeps Che's image alive, instead of the new image of a new Che.

FWIW


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Jim, I was just talkin about cigars... But please ask Ryan about the time that he smoked a Cuban on my back patio

[sharon kinsella]

At our dems club last night there was a lot of talk about inclusiveness and healing our country.

There is a lot of work to be done, how about you all climb on board and help do the work?

[Stephen Eisel]

For the record, on several occassions, I have extended a warm invitation to JOB to come over to my house and experience a real Cuban..

[Jim O'Bryan]

For the record, on several occassions, I have extended a warm invitation to JOB to come over to my house and experience a real Cuban..

This is very true, and some scotch.

But, to think I have not had a real cuban cigar before would be
extremely short sighted.

I would still maintain, if they were available commonly, we would not even be having this discussion.

Good, certainly, worth swooning over, no way.

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[Jeff Endress]

I like this discussion of cigars. Cigars are a good thing. Illegal to smoke except at home or in other special places, but generally a good thing.

But, as with anything, you have to examine the cost/benefit of a cuban. They're pretty easy to come by (even the real ones), but their cost can be triple the cost of a good CAO or Dominican Romeo Julietta. And while lighting up a $10.00 stick is, VERY enjoyable, I'm not at all sure that it's that much more enjoyable then a really good Dominican or Honduran.

It's alot like wine. You can get some really drinkable wine for 20 a bottle. Or, you can open a bottle of Opus or Silver Oak at 100 a bottle. If you know wine (or cigars) you'll probably know the difference, but unless you're buying them with your upper management year end banker's bonus or getting them as a gift, you'll probably opt for the one you can afford.

Either way, at the end of the day, all you'll have left is an empty bottle and a bunch of ashes.....

Jeff

[Charlie Page]

scotch and cubans......hmmm

I have a gently used bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue. I’d be willing to redistribute some if anyone has cubans to redistribute?

Now, if we could have one more spring like evening......and the time.

[Jeff Endress]

And to JOB's point....

Remember when Coors was only available West of the Mississippi? Man that year I went to Steamboat, I figured I was in for a real treat.....NOT!

Sometimes that which is unobtainable is more desireable than that which is close at hand.....

I'd love to do a blind tasting with all you experts.....

Jeff

[Charlie Page]

Either way, at the end of the day, all you'll have left is an empty bottle and a bunch of ashes.....

But the memory is priceless


Johnnie Walker Blue was a bargain at the duty free on the way back from Montreal. And while expensive, you have to do it at least once in your life.

[Charlie Page]

Remember when Coors was only available West of the Mississippi? Man that year I went to Steamboat, I figured I was in for a real treat.....NOT!
Jeff

Same with Molson XXX before it came to the states.

[Stephen Eisel]

its the soil in Cuba that makes the cigars better

[Jim O'Bryan]

Johnnie Walker Blue was a bargain at the duty free on the way back from Montreal. And while expensive, you have to do it at least once in your life.

Johnnie Walker Blue



Drank a bottle a couple months ago, at a fellow Observer's house. After the third glass, could have been Johnnie Walker red, or Dewars. Again, just does not live up to the hype. (yes I replaced the bottle the next day) Current favorite is Superstition from the Isle of Jura, (bottle on my desk at work) but Glenlivet always works in a pinch when rot gut will do.

Steve

Not the ground, the hype. Like Blue Mountain coffee from Jamaica, "best coffee in the world, most goes to Russia for the elite. Yawn. Smooth and light, almost not like coffee, but no where need the kick a guy like me needs.

Jeff

Speaking of Coors, worked a deal for the third shift of Coors Golden for two weeks to go to a guy in Indiana, who bought it for pennies on the dollar from us. He sent it to South America, where they coveted the delicious imported beer. We got race car money, and the Brazilians got delicious imported Coors Golden.

It is the hype not the product.

FWIW


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[Stephen Eisel]

Steve

Not the ground, the hype

When are you coming over to smoke the hype???

[Charlie Page]

Johnnie Walker Blue



Drank a bottle a couple months ago, at a fellow Observer's house. After the third glass, could have been Johnnie Walker red, or Dewars. Again, just does not live up to the hype. (yes I replaced the bottle the next day) Current favorite is Superstition from the Isle of Jura, (bottle on my desk at work) but Glenlivet always works in a pinch when rot gut will do.

Moderation is the key !!!

I have a vision of you never an arms legth away from a bottle

[ryan costa]

You’re sitting in a bar and some drunk has spent all his money and asks you for $20 for a cab ride home so he doesn’t have to drive. You wouldn’t want that on your conscience so you give him the money and not pay any attention to him. Ten minutes later you see him bellied up at the bar having another drink. Is the solution to give him more money in hopes that he will eventually do the right thing?

Our government is that drunk at the bar! The answer is not raise taxes but for the government to do the right thing and stop spending like drunken sailors on shore leave! Tighten their belts like the majority of Americans have had to do!

I would bet my house there’s at least 10% of fat you could cut from any federal agency’s budget. Fat that is flat out waste, fraud or other abuse of spending.

Over rated cigars?

Ask Ryan if they are overrated?

Trust me, they are not overated!

The NeoCons and Reaganites would consistently be more guilty of this. While there is also democrat guilt, there is much more Republican guilt.

A plan to privatize social security would make most Americans the prey of superstar Mutual Fund Managers and Hedge Fund innovators. There would be spectacular "growth" and commissions for the managers for a few years. and then another trillion dollar bailout.