Barack Obama's Thugocracy, Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid

Bill Call · Post by **Bill Call** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:35 am

What do you really know about Barack Obama?

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=Yj ... NkYjk4ZGM=

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/disc ... hp?t=35084

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtx ... re=related

Our experiment in self government has been under siege since its conception. Always there have been groups and individuals working to undermine and destroy it. With the best intentions of course.

Their underlying assumption was that the State knows best. Their first and last commandment is and was: Obey the State. Their goal is a compliant, subservient and dependent populace.

With super majorities in the Senate and House a Democratic Party dominated by its most extreme elements will have their way with the constitution. Led by a man contemptuous of Democratic principals they see the imminent realization of their fondest dreams, the end of our Democracy. Self government replaced with the rule of the bureaucracy, a dependent, subservient population.

Be afraid, be very afraid.

Jim DeVito · Post by **Jim DeVito** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:49 am

Bill, Can I have some of whatever you are smokeing?

Thanks though. I was missing my daily quota of biased news sources.

Stan Austin · Post by **Stan Austin** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:12 pm

Bill--- You have exactly described the ultimate agenda of Nixon, Reagan, Bush regimes---ultimate control of the state over the individual.
It finally came to its ultimate fruition in the midnight passage of legislation to prevent one from ending one's life in dignity.
The goal throughout of the Republican godstate has been to make individuals in complete subservience to the state from conception, through one's spriitual life on earth, and even at death.
As I watch the newsreels of the McCain/Palin rallies and look at their record in office and campaign statements I can only conclude that they wish to carry on and fully implement their final solutions of control.
I can only make a secular prayer that they are defeated and America can once again reenter the real world and have a government and society that once again respects the individual.
Stan Austin

sharon kinsella · Post by **sharon kinsella** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:24 pm

Stan and Jim -

Remember that term thug and how it was thrown around last summer. The connotations that were underlying the whole thing?

Just like they're trying to blame the whole economic collapse in sub-prime loans while the suits sold the mortgages and made money with multiple sales?

Oil prices are because of the Arabs, economic collapse was the fault of the borrowers and thugs are ruining Lakewood.

Really, you know how those Section 8 people are?

It's really getting old, very old and very tired.

It's not working republicans, we're not stupid and we don't believe any of you or your buddies in DC.

Oh, by the way, anybody hear about the finding about the firings by the W admin in the Justice Dept.? How's about that Maverick gal and the firing of Monegan. The report came out yesterday.

Phil Florian · Post by **Phil Florian** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:49 pm

I secretly suspect Bill Call doesn't believe a word he is typing. I think he wants McCain but is having fun watching people get red in the face when he posts stuff like this. He has seemed far too reasonable in the past when posting about politics and money. When his best and most valued news source is a fake Clinton site, you tube and a right leaning magazine, you know you are in for some fun reading at best, annoyance at worst.

The Republicans are simply asking for another 4-8 years. They had EVERYTHING in their hands for 6 of the last 8 but find ways to blame the "liberal elite" for all the problems and woes of the last 8 years. They are convinced if they had just 4 more years then they might actually become fiscally conservative again.

If they can just get two more justices in the Supreme Court (as is likely for the next President) then it won't matter what party is in power. They will have locked up the court for another 20-30 years. Loverly. No wonder they are so desperate.

Danielle Masters · Post by **Danielle Masters** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:48 pm

I decided last night that I needed to take a deep breath and step back. The words and actions coming out of the republican party and it's supporters in the last couple of weeks is getting more and more absurd and hateful. It is desperation and by getting upset I am just playing into their hands. So I am going to try and ignore all the blatantly political stories coming out and just stand firm in the my choice of Barack Obama for president. I know that when my children ask me about him (which I am happy they do because it means they want to understand what is going on) I can be positive and tell them what he believes.

So anyhow I will not let the negativity of the republicans get me down, this country doesn't deserve anymore negativity. It's time we move forward and move past the hate that has engulfed one party in this election.

Brian Pedaci · Post by **Brian Pedaci** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:06 pm

Oh yes, fear the thugs who will send you emails and call in to your radio show. Quake in your little bunny slippers over the lawyers who terrorize you with lawsuits if you do something as innocent as air an illegally false ad.

Please.

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:08 am

The Republicans are simply asking for another 4-8 years. They had EVERYTHING in their hands for 6 of the last 8 but find ways to blame the "liberal elite" for all the problems and woes of the last 8 years. They are convinced if they had just 4 more years then they might actually become fiscally conservative again.

The subprime meltdown was brought to you buy the dems... Who stopped the hearings? The dems... The dems fought Bush on war funding, tax cuts, offshore drilling, judicial pics and etc...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs
These scumbags in this video should thank God that they do not live in China...

Greg Morley · Post by **Greg Morley** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:27 am

Their underlying assumption was that the State knows best. Their first and last commandment is and was: Obey the State. Their goal is a compliant, subservient and dependent populace.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHJIAonAImg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqxmPjB0WSs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyv9JQ4Or_U

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:43 am

Greg Morley wrote:
Their underlying assumption was that the State knows best. Their first and last commandment is and was: Obey the State. Their goal is a compliant, subservient and dependent populace.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHJIAonAImg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqxmPjB0WSs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyv9JQ4Or_U

Show me the facts... not just the dribble and an angry Kool-Aid drinker...

Greg Morley · Post by **Greg Morley** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:49 am

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/ ... index.html

Greg Morley · Post by **Greg Morley** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:53 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Commissions_Act_of_2006

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:54 am

The United States Military Commissions Act of 2006[1], also known as HR-6166, was an Act of Congress[2] signed by President George W. Bush on October 17, 2006. Drafted in the wake of the Supreme Court's decision on Hamdan v. Rumsfeld,[3] the Act's stated purpose was "To authorize trial by military commission for violations of the law of war, and for other purposes."[4]

Section 7 of the MCA was found to be unconstitutional by the Supreme Court on 12 June 2008.[5]

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:59 am

and how was the Constitution destroyed?????

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:04 pm

Certainly the checks and balances were not destroyed by Bush??? The Supreme Court checked and blanced both Congress and the Executive Branch... Am I missing somthing?