Obama And ACORN Subject of RICO Investigation!

Jeff Endress · Post by **Jeff Endress** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:22 am

Capital Punishment?

It was rhetorical Ryan......

I already knew your answer. :wink:

Jeff

sharon kinsella · Post by **sharon kinsella** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:39 am

Your life, your beliefs.

No one should tell you what to do and don't tell me and my sisters.

I'm done. I'm not going to do the your God my Goddess thing with you Ryan.

I'm done.

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:40 am

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10102008/ne ... 132965.htm

CLEVELAND - A man at the center of a voter-registration scandal told The Post yesterday he was given cash and cigarettes by aggressive ACORN activists in exchange for registering an astonishing 72 times, in apparent violation of Ohio laws.

"Sometimes, they come up and bribe me with a cigarette, or they'll give me a dollar to sign up," said Freddie Johnson, 19, who filled out 72 separate voter-registration cards over an 18-month period at the behest of the left-leaning Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.

"The ACORN people are everywhere, looking to sign people up. I tell them I am already registered. The girl said, 'You are?' I say, 'Yup,' and then they say, 'Can you just sign up again?' " he said.

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:50 am

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbu ... 84284.html

Obama to amend report on $800,000 in spending

U.S. Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign paid more than $800,000 to an offshoot of the liberal Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now for services the Democrat's campaign says it mistakenly misrepresented in federal reports.

An Obama spokesman said Federal Election Commission reports would be amended to show Citizens Services Inc. -- a subsidiary of ACORN -- worked in "get-out-the-vote" projects, instead of activities such as polling, advance work and staging major events as stated in FEC finance reports filed during the primary.

FEC spokeswoman Mary Brandenberger said it is not unusual for campaigns to amend reports, even regarding large sums of money.

But, said Blair Latoff, spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee: "Barack Obama's failure to accurately report his campaign's financial records is an incredibly suspicious situation that appears to be an attempt to hide his campaign's interaction with a left-wing organization previously convicted of voter fraud. For a candidate who claims to be practicing 'new' politics, his FEC reports look an awful lot like the 'old-style' Chicago politics of yesterday."

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 11:58 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivmL-lXNy64

ACORN and Obama meltdown connection???

Ryan Salo · Post by **Ryan Salo** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:28 pm

great video Stephen, thanks for getting this back on track!

Too bad people don't care to know the truth.

sharon kinsella · Post by **sharon kinsella** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:58 pm

Redlining kids.

Old and racist practice. Going on forever.

Oh and Ryan - you should never, ever get started about mortgages again.

Don't put yourself in these positions and then act incensed that people come at you.

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:09 pm

Old and racist practice. Going on forever

Funny, that is what Barney Frank said to the republicans when they wanted more regualtions for Fannie and Freddie... He accused them the republicans of being racist. It is time for these old liberal mantras to go...

sharon kinsella · Post by **sharon kinsella** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:16 pm

You can't just erase history because you find it inconvenient Stephen.

Frankly I find it presumptious for you to decide that racists practices are irrelevant. To you, a white male, maybe. To others, not so much.

Don't get stupid with this.

Bill Call · Post by **Bill Call** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:22 pm

sharon kinsella wrote:Frankly I find it presumptious for you to decide that racists practices are irrelevant. To you, a white male, maybe. To others, not so much.

It is not racist to deny a loan to someone who can't pay it back.

The Community Reivestment Act was designed to open the floodgates of easy money so "the poor" could get their fair share. OK, take a drive through East Cleveland, Euclid, Maple Heights and Garfield Heights and let us know how the plan worked out. How does a 80% decline in property values "help the poor"?

Barack Obama actually sued Chicago banks to force them to loan money to people without jobs.

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:44 pm

sharon kinsella wrote:You can't just erase history because you find it inconvenient Stephen.

Frankly I find it presumptious for you to decide that racists practices are irrelevant. To you, a white male, maybe. To others, not so much.

Don't get stupid with this.

And the answer is racism!!!! :shock:

Please learn something from Barney Frank's $700 Billion Dollar mistake... Barney called the republicans racist for using commom sense.. This tactic did not serve blacks or whites.. It only caused more suffering for both blacks and whites... It drew attention away from the real problem so the libs could feel better about themselves... The problem here is not racism.. It is stupidity..

Ryan Salo · Post by **Ryan Salo** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:00 pm

sharon kinsella wrote:Oh and Ryan - you should never, ever get started about mortgages again.

Don't put yourself in these positions and then act incensed that people come at you.

What the heck are you talking about?

Are you taking part in Ivor's "Talk like Sarah Palin" game?

Ryan Salo · Post by **Ryan Salo** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:10 pm

It is not redlining if a culture is taught that paying bills isn't important. It is just a FACT that more black applicants have worse credit. I wish they didn't I really do, more education in the inner cities needs to take place. Maybe the schools should start basic credit classes in 9th grade.

People make money off of loans, but they lose when people don't pay them back. I wish I could give everyone a loan, but I can't to those that don't pay their bills.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,435306,00.html

This is racist, and not helping anyone get on the right track.

sharon kinsella · Post by **sharon kinsella** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:33 pm

Wow - over and out.

Mark Moran · Post by **Mark Moran** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:42 am

Can someone explain something to me? Somebody registers twice, three times, ten times, 72 times; registers his dog; registers a cartoon character.

How does this translate into a subversion of the election unless the guy tries to vote twice, three times, ten times, 72 times; unless his dog shows up and someone is stupid enough to give the dog a ballot; unless the entire polling staff is tripping on acid and somehow allows cartoon characters to vote.

What I have read sounds like ACORN is a shoddy organization, and I know a little something about organizations taht pay people according to their recruiting efforts (in my mispent youth I worked for Nader's PIRG and was paid according to the number of contributions I collected).

But this is all so much more strenuous contortion by a conservative "movement" that cannot seem to bring itself to the realization that is has some serious soul searching to do. Instead of all the tired old rationalizations about the "liberal mainstream media" and "east coast elites" and crooked left wing conspiracies, cant conservatives see that this is happening to them because millions of Americans are genuinely furious--as furious as the rednecks shouting for Obama's head at Palin's personality cult rallies--about the misuse of 9/11; about being lied to and frightened (instead of persuaded) into a costly war with no end in sight; about incompetence and mismanagment of staggering proportions; about the abuse of the constitution; about torture; and about the endless use of culture war theatrics (Terry Schiavo; and now and most abysmally, Palin) to stoke class resentments (Joe Six Pack versus East Coast elites, etc)??

Nah! So much easier to stick with the tried and true.