Fact Checking the VP Debates

David Lay · Post by **David Lay** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:29 am

Here's the USA Today fact check for last night's debates.

Danielle Masters · Post by **Danielle Masters** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:01 am

Thanks David. I have to wonder if these fact checking stories really matter to people. It seems like many of us watched different debates last night, so obviously we see the facts differently. But still I appreciate being able to read some facts.

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:46 am

and yes I looking for Sarah's right now

JOE BIDENâ€™S 14 LIES

1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted â€œthe exact same wayâ€

dl meckes · Post by **dl meckes** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:50 am

Stephen Eisel wrote:but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America

Cite Biden's quote, please.

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:52 am

http://wire.factcheck.org/page/2/

Bret Callentine · Post by **Bret Callentine** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:52 am

WTAM is playing the clip over and over right now.

Danielle Masters · Post by **Danielle Masters** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:53 am

One thing I would like to see in these fact checks is original sources because as I have been reading these over this morning it seems to be all about he said she said. Some have included sources (actual bills etc.) and those I can actually check but someone just saying he lied about this, she lied about this is just pointless. So after going through articles for the past 45 minutes I think it's just pointless everyone seems to just twist things to suit their own views.

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:55 am

dl meckes wrote:
Stephen Eisel wrote:but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America

Cite Biden's quote, please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rXyTRT-NZg

dl meckes · Post by **dl meckes** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:56 am

Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rXyTRT-NZg

dl meckes · Post by **dl meckes** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:58 am

Thanks, Stephen.

As usual, Biden's comments are, shall we say, open to interpretation as to his exact meaning.

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:01 am

dl meckes wrote:Thanks, Stephen.

As usual, Biden's comments are, shall we say, open to interpretation as to his exact meaning.

agreed .. He has good intentions...

Danielle Masters · Post by **Danielle Masters** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:01 am

Ok it is evident he said that and he said something different last night. I'm not sure if he had a change of heart or what, but clearly his statements were different.

As for clean coal, I have mixed emotions. I would really like to hear about developing clean renewable resources rather than continuing this use of fossil fuels. And "drill baby, drill" pissed me off. It's not something I hear people saying because most people know it won't make a lick of a difference right now.

Bret Callentine · Post by **Bret Callentine** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:02 am

speaking of "open to interpretation"...

I was a little confused when Biden suggested that the general in Afghanistan said that a surge wouldn't work, then detailed Obama's plan that called for more troops and more funding.

Huh?

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:07 am

I know two things about coal....

1) The US has a lot of it

2) and so does Santa Claus

PS JOB can verify n# 2

Clean burning coal??? :?:

sharon kinsella · Post by **sharon kinsella** » Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:44 pm

Sure clean coal. Over half of my great uncles and the last generation of male cousins died of black lung from working the mines in Scranton.

Burn a piece of fireplace coal sometime.

Not pretty.