The Surge Works? I am confused.
Moderator: Jim O'Bryan
- Jim O'Bryan
- Posts: 14196
- Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:12 pm
- Location: Lakewood
- Contact:
The Surge Works? I am confused.
I keep hearing "the surge works," the surge works," the surge works," the surge works," the surge works," the surge works," the surge works," the surge works," the surge works," the surge works," the surge works," the surge works,".
Now I am not the sharpest pencil in the box, but wasn't the surge needed because we were getting overwhelmed, and violence was escalating?
In fact isn't "the surge" merely what Barack Obama, Joe Biden, were screaming from day one? You know, the Colin Powell plan handed down by General Norman Schwarzkopf , an overwhelming show of power. As many as three times the number of troups that were there at our high point.
Like what the police use to save police officers lives. What the military had talked of for decades as way to save lives on both sides.
You know, what we learned in Vietnam, think and plan to fight a war be prepared and fight to win, not to sustain the need for military spending.
When this nightmare is over, history will be very interesting. Billions in $$$$ missing, billions in oil missing, war profiteering by the president and vice president and their families and cronies. Abrhamoff and Delay working for the Russian gangsters, Ralph Reed shaking down Native Americans,and on and on. Remember this was the administration that was going to bring PRIDE back to the Whitehouse!
So isn't the surge, what Colin Powell was dismissed for years ago?
How many lives lost because of this administration?
.
Now I am not the sharpest pencil in the box, but wasn't the surge needed because we were getting overwhelmed, and violence was escalating?
In fact isn't "the surge" merely what Barack Obama, Joe Biden, were screaming from day one? You know, the Colin Powell plan handed down by General Norman Schwarzkopf , an overwhelming show of power. As many as three times the number of troups that were there at our high point.
Like what the police use to save police officers lives. What the military had talked of for decades as way to save lives on both sides.
You know, what we learned in Vietnam, think and plan to fight a war be prepared and fight to win, not to sustain the need for military spending.
When this nightmare is over, history will be very interesting. Billions in $$$$ missing, billions in oil missing, war profiteering by the president and vice president and their families and cronies. Abrhamoff and Delay working for the Russian gangsters, Ralph Reed shaking down Native Americans,and on and on. Remember this was the administration that was going to bring PRIDE back to the Whitehouse!
So isn't the surge, what Colin Powell was dismissed for years ago?
How many lives lost because of this administration?
.
Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
-
- Posts: 3281
- Joined: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:36 pm
It does not sound like it...In fact isn't "the surge" merely what Barack Obama, Joe Biden, were screaming from day one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBO5s8NU ... re=related
-
- Posts: 3281
- Joined: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:36 pm
-
- Posts: 946
- Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:11 am
- Location: Lakewood, Ohio
-
- Posts: 2486
- Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:31 pm
difference
most of the news headlines say casualties have dropped down since the surge. I don't know, because I haven't been recording numbers from day to day.
the goal seems to be a sustained quagmire that isn't as depressing as a sustained quagmire with greater numbers of casualties. The goal seems to have those 110,000 to 140,000 troops at least somewhere in the middle east indefinitely. there's no place else to keep them than Iraq. They need to be kept available in case of a violent insurrection or coup in Saudi Arabia, or the UAE or Jordan. This is only conjecture on my part. I can think of no better reason.
the goal seems to be a sustained quagmire that isn't as depressing as a sustained quagmire with greater numbers of casualties. The goal seems to have those 110,000 to 140,000 troops at least somewhere in the middle east indefinitely. there's no place else to keep them than Iraq. They need to be kept available in case of a violent insurrection or coup in Saudi Arabia, or the UAE or Jordan. This is only conjecture on my part. I can think of no better reason.
-
- Posts: 3281
- Joined: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:36 pm
-
- Posts: 1139
- Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:39 am
- Location: Lakewood, OH
-
- Posts: 3281
- Joined: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:36 pm
-
- Posts: 571
- Joined: Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:18 pm
- Location: Lakewood
In fact isn't "the surge" merely what Barack Obama, Joe Biden, were screaming from day one?
Okay, now I'M confused. So, Obama was AGAINST the war, but FOR using more troops. AGAINST paying for it, until he voted FOR funding. And now you're telling me that he still doesn't think it worked, but that it was his idea in the first place?
I think I need to take up drinking again.