Obama's acceptance speech

Ivor Karabatkovic · Post by **Ivor Karabatkovic** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:31 am

I thought it was excellent. I think Obama proved to anyone who thought he was too weak to take on any of the candidates that he is not afraid to throw punches.

And on the 45th anniversary of MLK Jr.'s speech, I thought it was very fitting for him to talk about the urgency of this very moment.

"America, this is one of those moments. I believe that, as hard as it will be, the change we need is coming, because I've seen it, because I've lived it."

and the "I've seen it"'s tie MLK's last speech to this one because of MLK's famous lines "I just want to do God's will. And He's allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I've looked over. And I've seen the Promised Land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the promised land!"

And what Martin Luther King Jr. said 45 years ago today rings true as we as a nation remember a great man.....

"It would be fatal for the nation to overlook the urgency of the moment."

I Have A Dream Speech transcript

Barack Obama's Acceptance Speech Transcript

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:02 am

Last night's speech by Obama was certainly not on par with MLK's "I have a dream" speech in terms of substance, political setting and historical importance (in my opinion).

sharon kinsella · Post by **sharon kinsella** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:35 am

This is huge, this is what Dr. King envisioned.

I never thought I'd see a woman and a black man make it so far in a bid for the nomination.

I never thought I'd see a man that melded both races, be the party candidate.

This is a shining event.

Bret Callentine · Post by **Bret Callentine** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:39 am

Great Show! I especially like the part where the smoke came out and he said with the big booming voice... "I am the great and powerful OZ!!!!"

oh wait, maybe I was on the wrong channel. :wink:

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:10 am

sharon kinsella wrote:This is huge, this is what Dr. King envisioned.

I never thought I'd see a woman and a black man make it so far in a bid for the nomination.

I never thought I'd see a man that melded both races, be the party candidate.

This is a shining event.

We still have a long way to go Sharon. According to Chris Matthews, unless you are elected by the people then you are just a token black.....

Chris Matthews:
He was not offered a nice title like Secretary of State, like Condoleezza Rice got from the Republicans. He was not offered the title of Chairman of the Joint Chiefs as Colin Powell was, or Secretary of State. He won the nomination of a Democratic Party voting together. He defeated all other opponents and took the prize and took the leadership. He is the chosen leader of the Democratic Party.

He is not some popular appointment or a showcase appointment

Jim O'Bryan · Post by **Jim O'Bryan** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:23 am

Stephen Eisel wrote: We still have a long way to go Sharon. According to Chris Matthews, unless you are elected by the people then you are just a token black.....

Stephen

It is certainly a long road yet to go.

But am I too understand that you agree, that all of those african americans that are not president, are token blacks?

I really never knew you to go to the Chris Mathews quote bag, so I would have to think you agree.

The 18,000,000+ that got him here count for nothing?

High point, is when Obama pointed out how many times McCain has voted against or gone against his own bills in Congress, and against the Vets. Closing with the line, "First John McCain should finish the debate with himself before he debates me."

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Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:08 am

Jim O'Bryan wrote:
Stephen Eisel wrote: We still have a long way to go Sharon. According to Chris Matthews, unless you are elected by the people then you are just a token black.....

Stephen

It is certainly a long road yet to go.

But am I too understand that you agree, that all of those african americans that are not president, are token blacks?

I really never knew you to go to the Chris Mathews quote bag, so I would have to think you agree.

The 18,000,000+ that got him here count for nothing?

High point, is when Obama pointed out how many times McCain has voted against or gone against his own bills in Congress, and against the Vets. Closing with the line, "First John McCain should finish the debate with himself before he debates me."

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lol Jim... It should be obvious from my post that I disagree with Chris Matthews... This may be hard for you to believe but I actually watch MSNBC and heard the comment first hand. You are such a tool somtimes..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEsI_x1XIlQ

dl meckes · Post by **dl meckes** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:32 am

Stephen,

FWIW, I also did not understand your Chris Matthews quote the way you evidently intended it.

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:35 am

dl meckes wrote:Stephen,

FWIW, I also did not understand your Chris Matthews quote the way you evidently intended it.

But I am sure if some one from Fox had said it.. you would have

Lynn Farris · Post by **Lynn Farris** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:22 pm

After Ted Kennedy and Michelle Obama on night 1
After Brian Schweitzer and Hillary Clinton on night 2
After Bill Clinton and Joe Biden on night 3
After all of the speeches Obama has made that were tremendous, I was concerned that he had too big of a hurdle to overcome to pull this in - in a stadium this size.

I was wrong - he was fabulous. When even Pat Buchanan says it was the best acceptance speech he ever heard - that is incredible.

He laid out his plans without boring us. He attacked McCain's plans without attacking McCain. He showed amazing oratory power. He really inspired me that we can be energy independent within 10 years. I thought he outdid himself.

But I think the visual of Jill Biden and Michelle Obama holding hands on the anniversary of MLK's speech was the sign that maybe we are making progress in race relations in this country.

I think the bar is set very high for the Republicans next week.

dl meckes · Post by **dl meckes** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:21 pm

Stephen Eisel wrote:
dl meckes wrote:Stephen,

FWIW, I also did not understand your Chris Matthews quote the way you evidently intended it.
But I am sure if some one from Fox had said it.. you would have

Sorry, I don't watch those programs.

Ryan Salo · Post by **Ryan Salo** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:20 pm

dl meckes wrote:
Stephen Eisel wrote:
dl meckes wrote:Stephen,

FWIW, I also did not understand your Chris Matthews quote the way you evidently intended it.
But I am sure if some one from Fox had said it.. you would have

Sorry, I don't watch those programs.

Typical of the left... hear only what they want.

I watch as many channels as possible to stay "fair and balanced"

Yet "we" are the "close minded" :shock:

ryan costa · Post by **ryan costa** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:22 pm

I don't really see Obama as an african american cadidate. I can see his wife as African American. Obama reminds me more of Johnny Carson or Steve McQueen.

sharon kinsella · Post by **sharon kinsella** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:26 pm

Stephen et al.

Using the phrase token when referring to a black man or a woman is insulting.

If Chris Mathews said he was insulting and should be chastised.

Please don't use that phrase again. I know my leftie comment.

Remember everyone deserves to be treated for who they are, not what race and gender they are.

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 6:31 pm

sharon kinsella wrote:Stephen et al.

Using the phrase token when referring to a black man or a woman is insulting.

If Chris Mathews said he was insulting and should be chastised.

Please don't use that phrase again. I know my leftie comment.

Remember everyone deserves to be treated for who they are, not what race and gender they are.

Sharon, we finally agree on something.