Hussein's support of Terrorism

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:58 pm

Justine Cooper wrote:Well I am glad something did but you prove the point of you own question then, "do you need to have had an abortion to defend the right" I guess all the arguments I made about the human destruction meant nothing, until you heard from one who actually live through it.

That was your logic that I put to an anology... :wink:

It was actually his insight into the culture that rang a bell.

Sorry Justine, (this comment is not directed at you or anyone on this board) but this hogwash that the Democrat Leadership cares about our soldiers appears to be politically driven. The total military dead in the Iraq war between 2003 and this month stands at about 3,400. Yes, it is sad that these young men and women will never come home again. Each death is accounted for in the headlines in bold print. What is never compared is the number of military deaths during the 1990's: 1,245 in 1993; 1,109 in 1994; 1,055 in 1995; 1,008 in 1996. Where was the outrage in the early 1990's? Where were the headlines counting the bodies? Where was the cry to bring our soldiers home? Where was Nancy?

I give credit to some of these peace groups who in the 1990's stuck up for our troops. They truly showed their true colors (thumbs up for them).

Stephen Calhoun · Post by **Stephen Calhoun** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:25 pm

What is never compared is the number of military deaths during the 1990's: 1,245 in 1993; 1,109 in 1994; 1,055 in 1995; 1,008 in 1996.

Stephen what do these numbers refer to? They are deaths caused by what circumstances?

And could you give me your source for these figures once you've given them some context.

gracias

Dr.Puck

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:59 pm

FIGURES ARE CONFIRMED ON DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE SITE
1980 2,392
1981 2,380
1982 2,319
1983 2,465
1984 1,999
1985 2,252
1986 1,984
1987 1,983
1988 1,819
1989 1,636
1990 1,507
1991 1,787
1992 1,293
1993 1,213
1994 1,075
1995 1,040
1996 974
1997 817
1998 827
1999 796
2000 758
2001 891
2002 999
2003 1,410 534*
2004 1,887 900*
2005 919*
2006 920*

Stephen Calhoun · Post by **Stephen Calhoun** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:41 pm

Stephen, you're copying these numbers from a document. Okay, on the DoD site. Why not supply me with a link?

I asked for their context. You declined to answer.

Are they combat deaths? Deaths from all kinds of morbidity experienced at times in the life cycle and thus expected in any population?

See: you've attached an assertion to this listing but you haven't bridged the assertion so I can't tell if you're being rational or not, or trying to put one over on the good doctornot...again, or making some other attempt for some other reason.

Ivor Karabatkovic · Post by **Ivor Karabatkovic** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:58 pm

this is getting entertaining.

Stephen, you said something a few pages back that I have to bring up...

none of the information presented (that supports my theory) has been verified. It is just interesting reading material.

What is your "theory" about all of this?
Are you for the US being in Iraq and starting this war, or are you against the war ever starting?

Ivor Karabatkovic · Post by **Ivor Karabatkovic** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:14 pm

Sorry Justine, (this comment is not directed at you or anyone on this board) but this hogwash that the Democrat Leadership cares about our soldiers appears to be politically driven. The total military dead in the Iraq war between 2003 and this month stands at about 3,400. Yes, it is sad that these young men and women will never come home again. Each death is accounted for in the headlines in bold print. What is never compared is the number of military deaths during the 1990's: 1,245 in 1993; 1,109 in 1994; 1,055 in 1995; 1,008 in 1996. Where was the outrage in the early 1990's? Where were the headlines counting the bodies? Where was the cry to bring our soldiers home? Where was Nancy?

Oh, so publicity will make all the sorrow and pain go away?

I think there was no outcry in the 90's because there was no moral law, there was no Bush and there were no people that were so sick of their president that they wanted to impeach him.

You must be completely aloof from the world if you compare the situations in the 90's to the situation in 2007. Back in the 90's, immigrants like my family dreamt about starting a new life in a wonderful country like the United States of America. Back in the 90's I would stay up until 3AM to watch Michael Jordan play basketball. Back in the 90's, if you didn't have a t-shirt that said USA on it or had an american flag, you were a loser overseas.

now thanks to our powerful and witty leader, the US has burned all bridges with other countries and we don't have the same respect and popularity as we had in the 90's.

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:14 am

Ivor Karabatkovic wrote:this is getting entertaining.

Stephen, you said something a few pages back that I have to bring up...

none of the information presented (that supports my theory) has been verified. It is just interesting reading material.

What is your "theory" about all of this?
Are you for the US being in Iraq and starting this war, or are you against the war ever starting?

I was for the invasion and taking Saddam out of power (quickly). After 12 years of not honoring his terms of surrender and thumbing his nose at several UN Resolutions, it was time to take him out of power. Side note:We should have given Saddam the $billion dollars that he wanted to step down from power. My theory is, we were going to invade Iraq regardless of who was elected in 2000. This country viewed Saddam as a threat long before Bush took office (and that is a fact). (edited) It may not have been necessary to start a war or invade Iraq to take Saddam out of power. I need to revisit this subject.

Stephen Eisel · Post by **Stephen Eisel** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:38 am

Oh, so publicity will make all the sorrow and pain go away?

I think there was no outcry in the 90's because there was no moral law, there was no Bush and there were no people that were so sick of their president that they wanted to impeach him.

You must be completely aloof from the world if you compare the situations in the 90's to the situation in 2007. Back in the 90's, immigrants like my family dreamt about starting a new life in a wonderful country like the United States of America. Back in the 90's I would stay up until 3AM to watch Michael Jordan play basketball. Back in the 90's, if you didn't have a t-shirt that said USA on it or had an american flag, you were a loser overseas.

now thanks to our powerful and witty leader, the US has burned all bridges with other countries and we don't have the same respect and popularity as we had in the 90's.

You may want to ask your first question to the media.