http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17975678/
Cheney continues to claim a Saddam-al-Qaida connection prior to the U.S. invasion. While this was his opinion before the only reason I can come up with for him to continue this proclamation is that he is illiterate. Much evidence today supports the contrary position while NONE supports his contention.
If this administration wonders why it has lost the confidence of the American people to operate and manage this war in Iraq (see November 2006 election) it should look no further than these type of statements. Cheney's continued assertion is not grounded in reality.
Fact - We are there and can't leave anytime soon.
Fact - We gave Iraq a civil war not a republic.
The American people want to save this situation but can't get behind an administration that bases its policy on wishes, dreams and fairy tales.
Cheney's comments embarrass the entire nation.
Does Cheney Know How to Read?
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Does anyone have a link to the actual comments? From just reading the story it looks rather strange. But, was Cheney reiterating statements that Al-Qaida was working with Sadaam, or is he just suggesting that Al-Qaida was operating inside Iraqi borders?
The former would suggest that there is indeed something going on in Cheney's head. But the latter is a completely different scenario.
Just asking.
The former would suggest that there is indeed something going on in Cheney's head. But the latter is a completely different scenario.
Just asking.
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From the White House transcript of the interview
Not taking any position here as this argument wore me out a couple of years ago. It's not new - Cheney uses circumstantial evidence to imply the link but stops short of saying they had any operational relationship. The left overreacts and oversimplifies what he's saying. *yawn*
Think about -- just to give you one example, Rush, remember Abu Musab al Zarqawi, a Jordanian terrorist, al Qaeda affiliate; ran a training camp in Afghanistan for al Qaeda, then migrated -- after we went into Afghanistan and shut him down there, he went to Baghdad, took up residence there before we ever launched into Iraq; organized the al Qaeda operations inside Iraq before we even arrived on the scene, and then, of course, led the charge for Iraq until we killed him last June. He's the guy who arranged the bombing of the Samarra Mosque that precipitated the sectarian violence between Shia and Sunni. This is al Qaeda operating in Iraq. And as I say, they were present before we invaded Iraq.
There's no way you can segment out and say, well, we'll fight the war on terror in Pakistan, or in Afghanistan, but we can separate Iraq, that's not really in any way, shape, or form, related. That's just dead wrong. Bin Laden, himself, has said, this is a central battle in the war on terror.
Not taking any position here as this argument wore me out a couple of years ago. It's not new - Cheney uses circumstantial evidence to imply the link but stops short of saying they had any operational relationship. The left overreacts and oversimplifies what he's saying. *yawn*
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over reaction
Brian Pedaci wrote:From
Not taking any position here as this argument wore me out a couple of years ago. It's not new - Cheney uses circumstantial evidence to imply the link but stops short of saying they had any operational relationship. The left overreacts and oversimplifies what he's saying. *yawn*
Getting us into a War (the Iraq one) seems the bigger overreaction. But lets not let the Left score a Talking Point!
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Cheney
During the cold war the Soviet Union used Bulgaria and East German agencies to finance and train various terrorist groups around the world. Using third party intermediaries to operate their dirty war against America and the West allowed the Soviets to pursue a policy of terror and assassination on one hand and detente on the other.
While its fellow socialist dictatorships were very helpful in this war their greatest allies were the useful idiots in the West. The use full idiots never missed an opportunity to act as the Soviet Union's apologists.
The temporary opening of the KGB archives provided a treasure trove of data documenting the Soviet's Unions terror campaign. The use full idiots fell on hard times. Now it seems they are back.
Saddam's' terrorist ties are well known and well documented. To deny that is to deny history. See
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/04/ ... rrect.html
While its fellow socialist dictatorships were very helpful in this war their greatest allies were the useful idiots in the West. The use full idiots never missed an opportunity to act as the Soviet Union's apologists.
The temporary opening of the KGB archives provided a treasure trove of data documenting the Soviet's Unions terror campaign. The use full idiots fell on hard times. Now it seems they are back.
Saddam's' terrorist ties are well known and well documented. To deny that is to deny history. See
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/04/ ... rrect.html
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success ratio
it is important to remember that the Soviet Union was essentially Russia. As Russians, it is a given most of what they tried to do would fail. Whether they are monarchists, constitutional monarchists, socialists, communists, or turbo-capitalists. Their domestic programs largely failed, and their expeditionary goals largely failed.
On the other hand, we couldn't even get John Lennon permanently deported.
The United States is different. We tend to achieve results beyond our wildest expectations. The War on Drugs and our efforts to support various Contra groups has lead to millions of deaths, perpetual third would living conditions, and a few dozen ultra-rich drug kingpins able to negotiate for virtual fiefdoms with actual governments in Latin America. But most of it is through intermediaries and third parties. wheels turning wheels turning wheels is good because there is no culpability.
Here is a story about the willful commitment our leaders made to failure in Iraq. Our leaders were too busy making money and setting up big deals that went nowhere(towards improving Iraq), all for the sake of sticking to the gospel of unrestricted free trade, good publicity, appeasing motorists, etc. Iraqis were essentially Gouged.
On the other hand, we couldn't even get John Lennon permanently deported.
The United States is different. We tend to achieve results beyond our wildest expectations. The War on Drugs and our efforts to support various Contra groups has lead to millions of deaths, perpetual third would living conditions, and a few dozen ultra-rich drug kingpins able to negotiate for virtual fiefdoms with actual governments in Latin America. But most of it is through intermediaries and third parties. wheels turning wheels turning wheels is good because there is no culpability.
Here is a story about the willful commitment our leaders made to failure in Iraq. Our leaders were too busy making money and setting up big deals that went nowhere(towards improving Iraq), all for the sake of sticking to the gospel of unrestricted free trade, good publicity, appeasing motorists, etc. Iraqis were essentially Gouged.