Bars in complience
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DougHuntingdon
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David Anderson
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For what it's worth, I stopped in at The Melt last Thursday to order take-out lunch. The place was packed. In fact, I had to wait about 25-minutes for my food. I'm not complaining about the wait but offer it as evidence of how busy the place was. I hope they are doing well during other days/times.
The only things smoking were the nice bar candles.
The only things smoking were the nice bar candles.
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dl meckes
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Charyn Compeau
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I just want to post a thank you to everyone that has reported on establishments here.
We are planning on going out this weekend and the places that WONT get our business are the ones who have sich disdain for the law that they will not be in compliance until they are forced.
That speaks volumes to me about business ethics and intergrity. Just bcauase you wont get in trouble, doesnt make it right or ethical to break the law.
A shame b/c before this - I had a lot of respect for some of these owners - particularly Sullivans.
*shakes head*
Regards,
Charyn
We are planning on going out this weekend and the places that WONT get our business are the ones who have sich disdain for the law that they will not be in compliance until they are forced.
That speaks volumes to me about business ethics and intergrity. Just bcauase you wont get in trouble, doesnt make it right or ethical to break the law.
A shame b/c before this - I had a lot of respect for some of these owners - particularly Sullivans.
*shakes head*
Regards,
Charyn
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c. dawson
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Ken Lipka
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smoke free
The Kenilworth Tavern is smoke free. Some people were outside smoking more than they were inside socializing. It was nice to arrive home and not smell like an ashtray.
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Danielle Masters
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c. dawson wrote:Sullivan's must have just done an about-face, because we were there a few weeks ago, and it was very much smoke-free. And packed, too, so I can't see why they'd return to smoking.
oh well, eventually they'll have to be in compliance!
I don't know if it was the time we were there, not that that should matter. It was pretty empty last night and we arrived at about 10 pm. All the same I was disappointed that it was smokey and won't go back.
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Kirt Tompkins
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To all in this thread. Just an FYI.
Now that the people of Ohio have joined the growing group of people more than happy to give their rights away, I hope you are all happy.
This was, and still should be an issue decided by the marketplace, NOT the government. When the State of Ohio decides to subsidize my losses, then, and only then should they be allowed to tell me how to run my business.
It's a sad day in the land of the (supposedly) free, when an adult cannot make up their own mind about how and where they wish to spend their free time and money.
If you do not wish to be around smoke or smokers there is an easy solution. Just GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. Before this law was enacted there where more than 240 smoke free venues in NE Ohio. What, do you need them all?
Why you feel that your rights override mine is beyond me. A constant source of amazement.
As C. S. Lewis said:
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
By the way, to keep this on topic, I OWN the Sloane Pub. We ARE NOT in compliance and will not be until forced to. Looking forward to not seeing you there.
Kirt Tompkins
Now that the people of Ohio have joined the growing group of people more than happy to give their rights away, I hope you are all happy.
This was, and still should be an issue decided by the marketplace, NOT the government. When the State of Ohio decides to subsidize my losses, then, and only then should they be allowed to tell me how to run my business.
It's a sad day in the land of the (supposedly) free, when an adult cannot make up their own mind about how and where they wish to spend their free time and money.
If you do not wish to be around smoke or smokers there is an easy solution. Just GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. Before this law was enacted there where more than 240 smoke free venues in NE Ohio. What, do you need them all?
Why you feel that your rights override mine is beyond me. A constant source of amazement.
As C. S. Lewis said:
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
By the way, to keep this on topic, I OWN the Sloane Pub. We ARE NOT in compliance and will not be until forced to. Looking forward to not seeing you there.
Kirt Tompkins
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Bryan Schwegler
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Kirt Tompkins wrote:By the way, to keep this on topic, I OWN the Sloane Pub. We ARE NOT in compliance and will not be until forced to. Looking forward to not seeing you there.
That's about the most childish retort I've ever seen come from an adult. While I would respect disagreement and have done so here, you're post amounts to nothing more than a temper tantrum of someone who didn't get his way.
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Kirt Tompkins
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Bryan Schwegler wrote:Kirt Tompkins wrote:By the way, to keep this on topic, I OWN the Sloane Pub. We ARE NOT in compliance and will not be until forced to. Looking forward to not seeing you there.
That's about the most childish retort I've ever seen come from an adult. While I would respect disagreement and have done so here, you're post amounts to nothing more than a temper tantrum of someone who didn't get his way.
Bryan -
Sorry to offend you, but when ones right to decide their own future is denied them with little or no recourse, one might tend to feel a little childish/like.
It after all was only two lines of my post
Kirt Tompkins