Gov DeWine Threatens Tougher Suggestions In Coming Weeks

[Jim O'Bryan]

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State of Ohio
Total Tested - 4,994,937
Total Cases - 267,356, Up 5,874 past 24 hours, 21 day average is 3,779
Total Deaths - 5,623, Up 76 past 24 hours, 21 day average is 23 a day
Number of Hospitalizations - 21,290, Up 253 past 24 hours, 21 day average is 179 a day
ICU Admissions - 4,122, Up 36 past 24 hours, 21 day average is 23 a day

In what has become just a terrible display, Gov. Mike DeWine threatens to make tougher suggestions.

If this keeps getting bad, by Thanksgiving we could ask people to wear masks and have smaller gatherings. (Huh?)

If it keeps getting worse we are going to ask businesses to put signs up that customers have to wear masks. (Huh?)

If they do not enforce it they could a warning and them be closed for up to 24 hours.

Then he went into a nice story about people not able to see their family and friends.

The city, the county, the state and the country are lost in an ever growing nightmare that was forecast and warned about back in February.

There is one simple fact, until COVID numbers are down, normal life, normal holidays, normal experiences will not return.

Wear a mask, stay home unless necessary, think of others.

Or DeWine might issue more suggestions.

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[Betsy Voinovich]

Jim--

I don't know if we heard the same broadcast. I came in late and only heard the end but this is a verbatim quote from Mike DeWine:


"If the current trend continues, and cases keep increasing, we will be forced to close restaurants, bars and fitness centers. We will look at this one week from tomorrow."

That doesn't sound like a suggestion.


Betsy Voinovich

[pj bennett]

Jim--

I don't know if we heard the same broadcast. I came in late and only heard the end but this is a verbatim quote from Mike DeWine:


"If the current trend continues, and cases keep increasing, we will be forced to close restaurants, bars and fitness centers. We will look at this one week from tomorrow."

That doesn't sound like a suggestion.


Betsy Voinovich

I wonder, what is to be gained by waiting yet another week?

[Bridget Conant]

Hoping it will magically disappear?


Lots of dreamers in the Republican Party. Maybe we should send them back.

[Jim O'Bryan]

Jim--

I don't know if we heard the same broadcast. I came in late and only heard the end but this is a verbatim quote from Mike DeWine:


"If the current trend continues, and cases keep increasing, we will be forced to close restaurants, bars and fitness centers. We will look at this one week from tomorrow."

That doesn't sound like a suggestion.


Betsy Voinovich

I rest my case.

Oh there was a lot of bluster, and "I might have tos."

But once again the ball was kicked down the road, hoping for that magical intervention.

There is only one way to stop the virus, and it is very simple. Do not allow it to transfer. How, many simple ways.

He reapplied his current mask suggestion. He asked for businesses to put signs at ALL entrances.

And stopped there.

The current rate of spread is 4 times what it was during the last shut down. MANY studies underline easiest transmission, bars, restaurants, churches, schools, gatherings, err gatherings of 20 or more(!). It is all the work of a paper tiger.

Look to professional sports, they have the idea, though it fails to. Daily testing, a bubble that if you exit, you must report that you did. In pro sports could bring on a fine.
And it still get through.

In F1 they work in bubbles of 5-8, and they rarely if ever mix with the rest of the bubbles. It still gets through.

How? People relax, and people still do go out of their bubble.

The concept pushed by Trump and Republicans and science deniers is, if we act normal, it will be normal. It will never be pre-COVID normal.

One year later they still know very little about what COVID does long term.

To flashback to what they know, it transfers easier than FLU, and is more deadly, and harmful.

I know parents freaking out, I know restaurant and bars owners freaking out, I know families freaking out.

While the Governor figures out what to do next, and not piss off science deniers, another 200 Ohioans will die. Another 5,000 will get hospital bills that will bankrupt them. More families will be devastated.

It should be 1 week to prepare for 4-5 weeks total shutdown with the exception of really essential businesses. Not like last time where the business could decide if they were essential.

Once we bite the bullet, the infection rate will fall to levels that allow this to be managed, and maybe eradicated.

Every day lost, causes massive issues down the road.


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[Betsy Voinovich]

Not to be argumentative-- but DeWine did say that if the numbers don't improve he will close the main spreaders-- places where people don't wear masks because they are eating drinking or working out. He didn't say he'd think about it, or suggest it, he said he'd close them. While it's true that it's very unlikely that the numbers will go down in a week, it has been his practice to give a warning before he acts.

Your post makes it sound like he didn't say anything about closing these establishments down. You need to give him credit where credit is due, and be honest about what he did say. He is now having the mask requirement enforced with penalties, and in a week, no restaurants, bars or gyms. Kind of big deal.

Not all "suggestions." My only point.

Betsy Voinovich

[Betsy Voinovich]

Not to be argumentative-- but DeWine did say that if the numbers don't improve he will close the main spreaders-- places where people don't wear masks because they are eating drinking or working out. He didn't say he'd think about it, or suggest it, he said he'd close them. While it's true that it's very unlikely that the numbers will go down in a week, it has been his practice to give a warning before he acts.

Your post makes it sound like he didn't say anything about closing these establishments down. You need to give him credit where credit is due, and be honest about what he did say. He is now having the mask requirement enforced with penalties, and in a week, no restaurants, bars or gyms. Kind of big deal.

Not all "suggestions." My only point.

Betsy Voinovich

[Jim O'Bryan]

Not to be argumentative-- but DeWine did say that if the numbers don't improve he will close the main spreaders-- places where people don't wear masks because they are eating drinking or working out. He didn't say he'd think about it, or suggest it, he said he'd close them. While it's true that it's very unlikely that the numbers will go down in a week, it has been his practice to give a warning before he acts.

Your post makes it sound like he didn't say anything about closing these establishments down. You need to give him credit where credit is due, and be honest about what he did say. He is now having the mask requirement enforced with penalties, and in a week, no restaurants, bars or gyms. Kind of big deal.

Not all "suggestions." My only point.

Betsy Voinovich

Betsy

Having followed this, with cases and case trends on the way up, way up, there is no way numbers fall in the next two weeks, what alone one. So the wait was ridiculous, perhaps offer a warning instead of, "I'll turn the car around if you do not behave."

Gov. DeWine has been the great suggester from day one. "We are closing all non-essential businesses." Followed when asked what are essential businesses he said. "We would leave that up to the various businesses to decide." Which is why we plateaued instead of falling. After he waited a short time, not waiting for science, he reopened. The problem was, we were at 200 cases a day not O. When it happened again we were at 600 a day, then up it went. I watch the media call it peak one, second wave. What if, and this is a reality, what if we are still in the first wave? I look at the data from 1918 and it sure looks like we are in the first wave, and that is not good news.

So for Gov. DeWine to break into daily TV with a veiled hollow threat did little to make me relax.

He suggested those places tighten up. He did not close them.

Only action I saw was asking for a signs for masks at all entrances not just the main one. Oh and places 'could be closed for up to 24 hours.

I wrote it expressing the truth and my disappointment.

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[mjkuhns]

Expert forecasts have been pretty accurate when it comes to the pandemic, even months in advance.

For a time horizon of a week or so, and a population the size of Ohio's, a qualified expert can probably predict the specific numbers for each day with a very small margin of error. DeWine in his wisdom didn't hire a public health expert as Ohio's latest health director, but such people exist and are probably available to provide guidance all the same. There's no need for saying "I may do xyz next week, depending on what happens, we'll have to wait and see."

I don't know if DeWine's preference for temporizing, anyway, is a trial balloon or just habit or what. I don't think it matters a whole lot, in practice.

The way to protect people from COVID-19 has been known for many months: shut down nonessential business, provide support so that employers and workers can make it through a shutdown, then keep the curve flattened with mask mandates, gathering restrictions, and aggressive contact tracing. But all of this offends Republican dogma, and DeWine reliably chooses partisanship over people.

[pj bennett]

So many people just don't get it.

One example, and I could site many, was a recent trip to a grocery store.
The cashier, in seeing a rotisserie chicken amongst my groceries, said "These only cost $6.00 on Saturdays."

I replied, "But, isn't this store really busy on Saturdays?"
She enthusiastically agreed and went on to mention that the wait line outside does move along.
I said, that's great, but I'm of an age, that I shouldn't really be around many people....ever.

Her response? "Oh! I didn't think of that!"

I'm thinking....seriously? After all these months and her store having special hours for those especially vulnerable to covid..... she hadn't thought of the fact that weekends are not the safest time to shop?

For those of you on Instagram, visit @clevelandrocksandbeads and read her latest post.
This is not the first time, that the shop owner has posted about the flak, that she's taking from some of the public.
Here, she's trying to do the right thing and keep herself and others safe.
What does she get?
Ill-mannered people and ridicule.