Foundation Planning Task Force Meeting- April 10

[bentleymike]

Just a reminder that next week, Tuesday, April 10 at 6pm is one of the Foundation Planning Task Force's last meetings prior to making recommendations to City Council, the Mayor, and LHA.

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[bentleymike]

Just a reminder that tomorrow is one of your last chances to hear what will be put forth in front of council, the mayor and LHA within a few weeks.

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[Jim O'Bryan]

Mike

I forgot to mention I had the pleasure of speaking with another member of the Task Force last week. It was a serendipitous meeting at Rising Star Coffee on Madison. I was speaking motor racing with a fellow from Norway I have run into a couple times there where I was asked a question about what I knew about the hospital. Well there really wasn't much this person didn't know but he mentioned their job at the Task Force was to focus on the future and best use of the small amount the City could get any kind of access too.

They admitted it was a Herculean task to even think of making up for the massive hole and deficit left by the closure of Lakewood Hospital, they felt all they could do was what they thought would be best in the long run for the community. After all that was the task, the Task Force was given. We they went into various discussions about gentrification, inner city, and Downtown build outs, and was fascinated that they had documentation and studies on just how tough and nearly impossible that was. A success rate under 10% which they went on to say put it off the table, as that was not their job, but just made the work of the Task Force that much more important.

It was truly an enlightening couple cups of coffee, and gave me a good feel that another well educated open thoughtful, realistic mind was on the Task Force.

I decided to post this as it covers some points you have tried to make throughout the process. While it would be easy to get dragged down by just how dirty the Hospital closing was, the Task Force is there to make the best out of a bad situation in the future.

Thanks for your time and your posts.

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[Bill Call]

Thanks for the information Jim. And thanks to the members of the task force. The members of the task force are a group of honorable people trying to make the best of a bad situation.

I have to admit I am a bit bitter about the Hospital fiasco. It’s a little like finding out your broker has stolen your $200,000 401(k) and then being told that it’s ok because each year $500 of that money will be given to local charities.

How do you make up $1,000,000 in income tax revenue?

How do you make up $1,000,000 in rental income?

How do you make up all the economic activity brought to the community by a local hospital?

How do you make up the loss of $170 million in assets?

A very profitable Hospital was sabotaged for ….. just what exactly?

[bentleymike]

Mike

I forgot to mention I had the pleasure of speaking with another member of the Task Force last week. It was a serendipitous meeting at Rising Star Coffee on Madison. I was speaking motor racing with a fellow from Norway I have run into a couple times there where I was asked a question about what I knew about the hospital. Well there really wasn't much this person didn't know but he mentioned their job at the Task Force was to focus on the future and best use of the small amount the City could get any kind of access too.

They admitted it was a Herculean task to even think of making up for the massive hole and deficit left by the closure of Lakewood Hospital, they felt all they could do was what they thought would be best in the long run for the community. After all that was the task, the Task Force was given. We they went into various discussions about gentrification, inner city, and Downtown build outs, and was fascinated that they had documentation and studies on just how tough and nearly impossible that was. A success rate under 10% which they went on to say put it off the table, as that was not their job, but just made the work of the Task Force that much more important.

It was truly an enlightening couple cups of coffee, and gave me a good feel that another well educated open thoughtful, realistic mind was on the Task Force.

I decided to post this as it covers some points you have tried to make throughout the process. While it would be easy to get dragged down by just how dirty the Hospital closing was, the Task Force is there to make the best out of a bad situation in the future.

Thanks for your time and your posts.

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Jim,

I'm very glad you got to engage another member of the Task Force, who could give you the warm and fuzzies. It really is an amazing collection of people, with a bunch of different backgrounds and experiences. I think everyone has learned so much from one another, and I truly believe that the community will love what is ultimately rolled out. For those, like Bill Call, it may take a bit. It's really important to understand why the recommendations will be made. If you don't go to the meetings, and hear the conversations, you don't get the depth of what's being said or done. This is a group of people who has taken what has been told to them, through a series of interviews with the community, and put it to work the best it can. Ultimately, the community will need to join the board, join the committees, and put into work the goals set forth.

Bill, I encourage you to REALLY engage in the work we've done. Once it's rolled out, and we present to City Council, those few minutes WILL NOT do our work justice. PERIOD. Go to the website, and catch up on everything.

There has been only ONE member of the public who has stayed engaged through the entire process to understand what we've done, and that is Dean Dilzell. I think he would vouch for the work being put in. Mayor Summers has stayed engaged throughout the process. He hasn't attended every single meeting, but has always been there when we've requested presence or input. I am hopeful that tonight, City Council does the same. I went and spoke at a meeting a couple of weeks back, specifically requesting their presence. I also gave City Council a packet to do some reading up of all the things that are highlighted on the website. Everyone needs to be caught up. To their credit, a few have come and gone at various times to different meetings.

Here is the website, so that you can get caught up: http://www.onelakewood.com/wellness-fou ... ask-force/

[Jim O'Bryan]

I'm very glad you got to engage another member of the Task Force, who could give you the warm and fuzzies.
Here is the website, so that you can get caught up: http://www.onelakewood.com/wellness-fou ... ask-force/

Mike

No offense it is not about my warm and fuzzies, but more about the last chance to recoup anything out of the scheme to liquidate the hospital for some private funds and the lands by a handful of Lakewoodites.

I am not speaking of your group. Well not all of them. I realize that you are hoping to keep this Foundation public.

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[Mark Kindt]

On the City of Lakewood website, you will find the following document:

http://www.onelakewood.com/wp-content/u ... w-CHNA.pdf

I encourage everyone to take time to skim the paper and also focus on the section relating to Lakewood (p.28 et seq.)

You might come to the conclusion that, perhaps, even the Cleveland Clinic (Fairview) might see the need for a hospital in Lakewood given the chronic illnesses identified.

If you read this document in sync with the decanting plan, you might roll your eyes in total dismay.

"The Clinic taketh away the cup. The Clinic giveth thee a mite and a mote."

You will also note that the document excludes any discharge information for Lakewood Hospital in its analysis. How meaningful is that? It's a report that ignores most of the actual local discharge data. I guess that would have been bad form for the authors.

That said, I recognize and appreciate the work of the Foundation Planning Task Force.

[Mark Kindt]

On the City of Lakewood website, you will find the following document:

http://www.onelakewood.com/wp-content/u ... w-CHNA.pdf

I encourage everyone to take time to skim the paper and also focus on the section relating to Lakewood (p.28 et seq.)

You might come to the conclusion that, perhaps, even the Cleveland Clinic (Fairview) might see the need for a hospital in Lakewood given the chronic illnesses identified.

If you read this document in sync with the decanting plan, you might roll your eyes in total dismay.

"The Clinic taketh away the cup. The Clinic giveth thee a mite and a mote."

You will also note that the document excludes any discharge information for Lakewood Hospital in its analysis. How meaningful is that? It's a report that ignores most of the actual local discharge data. I guess that would have been bad form for the authors.

That said, I recognize and appreciate the work of the Foundation Planning Task Force.

And, the document also excludes the admissions data for Lakewood Hospital in the relevant year under analysis. How buggy is that?

[Mark Kindt]

One of the aspects of the hospital debacle that is particularly disturbing is the continuing misuse of consultants.

In the document that I have linked-to and posted above, we can see some revisionist history already at work in 2016.

If you had not seen Lakewood Hospital in 2014 with your own eyes, you would not know that it ever existed from reading this report.

The Cleveland Clinic is using its own 2014 admissions and discharge information in this report, but none from the hospital that it ran in Lakewood in 2014.

This document was created as a result of the Master Agreement to liquidate and close the Hospital.

Perhaps, even before the Foundation Planning Task Force started its work under the Master Agreement to plan the New Foundation, we can review this Cleveland Clinic document and see that the relevant Lakewood Hospital data and statistics are not being reported.

While it may correctly analyze the needs of the Fairview Hospital catchment area population, it understates the hospital utilization rate of the Lakewood Hospital catchment area population.

It is an exercise in intellectual jiggery-pokery that the citizens of Lakewood did not deserve, particularly after all of the other constant misrepresentations that were floated to the public.

[Mark Kindt]

I think we are observing a situation where actual community need assessment documents prepared by Lakewood Hospital in the relevant years (2013-2014) have been excluded from the analysis provided by the Cleveland Clinic to the City of Lakewood under the Master Agreement.

My basis for this statement is grounded in the following document: LKWD-PRR 158_003926.

This is an email dated August 19, 2013 from Subsidium asking for copies of current or recent Community Health Needs Assessments prepared by or under preparation by Lakewood Hospital.

This raises the question: Did our community lose access to its historical healthcare statistical information as a result the liquidation and closure of Lakewood Hospital?

[Mark Kindt]

Here's the document that I am referring to:

[Mark Kindt]

If you compare this document against the Fairview Hospital CHNA, you will see that the text for Lakewood in that document (Appendix A) is missing all of the meaningful data for Lakewood.

Like I said, this is intellectual jiggery-pokery of the meanest sort.

This problem derives directly from the Master Agreement.

It was a disservice to the citizens of Lakewood and those who have committed time and effort to the Foundation Planning Task Force.

The Lakewood Hospital CHNAs are missing and so is all of the Lakewood Hospital utilization data.