Gary Rice wrote:Still bottom line? As far as I'm concerned in our town, it's still friendship in my mind. I consider Jim O'Bryan a friend. Ditto Bill Call, Mike Deneen, and Brian Essi too, and yes, even Tom Bullock and Mike Summers, and most all of the rest of you as well; even though I might not always (in fact at times, seldom) agree with any of you.
I celebrate when people have their victories, and I feel empathy when people make mistakes and experience losses.
But I digress here...
Back to the banjo...

A friend to all is a friend to none. - Aristotle
Gary Rice wrote:If I'm remembering accurately here, Jimmy's always said that all of this goes way above and beyond that, and he has a strong point to make, I do believe. The hospital is just the tip of a very sublime and slippery iceberg, scraping along the hull of the good ship Lakewood.
Expanding on that Titanic analogy, what role exactly does a person like Mr. Bullock play in this crisis? Do they metaphorically stay with our ship, or swim off to Columbus? The voters will decide, I suppose...
Gary, actually I usually refer to it as a slippery slope. If you allow Government to lie, cheat, intimidate even on small levels, the next thing they will do will be greater, and greater, and greater. Until they conspire to help cover up public documents, fight residents in courts for years, even stop investigations into truly illegal acts done on their behalf. It will eventually become a criminal enterprise. Yes your good friends. Your same good friends that belittle you the moment you dare to question their acts. Friends?
Gary, Mrs. O'Bryan pointed out another lie that you freely repeat. "There was no stopping the hospital from closing?" and another one here, at some point you will need to understand, The Cleveland Clinic never asked to leave Lakewood, never. They never asked to leave Lakewood Hospital, never. City Hall asked them to leave through to RFPs, (Requests for Proposals). EVERYTHING CLEVELAND CLINIC DID WAS APPROVED BY LHA, IE MIKE SUMMERS, TOM BULLOCK AND MARY LOUISE MADIGAN. EVERYTHING. At some point, you will have to understand most of what you think, and are repeating is wrong. And j if we export these people to the State, and allow them to run on lies, the Good Book will tell you, we are no better then they are, WE ARE COMPLICIT.
Gary Rice wrote:It's always been my position that whenever we put politics above people, things get a bit hard to swallow. We are all, after all, a little lower than the angels. The Good Book says that there are none good, and so it is.
Mr. Bullock will answer for everything he has said and done, as indeed, shall we all. Chickens always come back to roost. Jimmy's point about Mr. Bullock's alleged public interchange with that individual is a classic case in point.
You know the old saw: "Adversity doesn't build character, it reveals it" None of us are at our best when we find ourselves under attack. It will remain to be seen how politicians, or anyone else for that matter, respond when they are put under pressure.
Gary
That very attitude cost America over 1/4 million lives in our lifetime, the Vietnam War. There is no proof Nixon worked to keep the War going to get reelected. Now maybe you think his retiring in disgrace is fair payment, I do not. Nor do the 2 million Vietnamese he killed during that period of time.
My point is sometimes, a person has to stand for something, a person has to speak up for themselves, and for those afraid, or who cannot. The Good Book tells us that, and more importantly so did Grandma, your moral fiber, and common sense.
Which brings me to my final point, and more BS you have posted.
Gary Rice wrote:It's ALL about the hospital.
IT HAS NEVER BEEN ABOUT THE HOSPITAL, the hospital is just another symptom of a City Hall and Council, and Civic Leaders out of control. When Civic leaders lie, file false police reports, and intimidate peaceful residents. When City Hall squashes free speech, lies, misrepresents, hides and destroys public documents, in an effort to grab a small handful of money and land for friends and associates. IT IS A PROBLEM FAR GREATER THEN THE LOSS OF THE HOSPITAL.
The man Tom Bullock belittled who had spent two of Tom's lifetimes in public service fighting cheats, thieves, liars and corruption begins to the see the city he moved to decades ago and adopted and love as a criminal enterprise knowing now bounds or laws. We all have a problem.
Will Tom, Mike, Kevin others pay, I have no idea, but with every water bill you are. They increased them as yet another form of legal tax increase without representation. Everytime you take your trash to the curb, you pay, another form of taxation without representation. They cut staff, they cut services, and they play fast and loose with the truth, the budget and our city, and we all pay.
Sometime when you go back to playing the banjo, it reminds me of Nero fiddling as Rome burned.
Gary, do not let them make you a monkey...
Pick up the sword, join with the side of truth, honesty, righteousness, and protect those that cannot protect themselves, be the shining knight...
peace, and much love my brother.
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