Has Hate Become Lakewood's Newest Product?
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Has Hate Become Lakewood's Newest Product?
For years I read as person after person said that hate was at the Observer but not at Facebook, not on Twitter, not on other boards. I paid it little mind as I have rarely found the Deck to be anything more than critical, not filled with hate, and nearly always directed at City Hall and/or the way they spent our money.
Then my Tech people made us part of Facebook, and I found it to be very disturbing, and I guess, so did Facebook as they removed the thumbsdown icon as it was getting too much use.
Recently many in Lakewood said, finally Lakewood Community pages and "neighborhood pages" a place for positive communications. Nearly instantly they were commandeered by the local neighborhood bullies and moderators desperate to control the conversations, not merely the tone of conversation. Using them and the moderation of such to control and derail serious conversation about the community, but also used to help City Hall cover up their lies and tamp down questions and questioners.
Then, this afternoon for the third time in 5 days a mother called in tears, that the level of attacks and vitriol community sites had reached an all time high, they were closing their accounts for their safety and more importantly the safety of their family, reasons and moving.
Lakewood, what the hell is wrong with you?
We used to be a loving, healthy happy community. I have lived through a couple different "civil wars" the last being the worst, but rarely have residents turned against residents.
WTF? Just because there are a handful of haters, underwritten, empowered and normalized in part by City Hall does not mean you need to go along?
It has reached such. crescendo that more and more public figures are writing me, and sending me emails of threats from people running boards demanding participation or else. The School Board living in fear because of people demanding access, the judge, the library, non-profits, businesses even some of our contributors harassed for sharing or not sharing with extremely troubled individuals running sites.
Lakewood what happened to you?
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Then my Tech people made us part of Facebook, and I found it to be very disturbing, and I guess, so did Facebook as they removed the thumbsdown icon as it was getting too much use.
Recently many in Lakewood said, finally Lakewood Community pages and "neighborhood pages" a place for positive communications. Nearly instantly they were commandeered by the local neighborhood bullies and moderators desperate to control the conversations, not merely the tone of conversation. Using them and the moderation of such to control and derail serious conversation about the community, but also used to help City Hall cover up their lies and tamp down questions and questioners.
Then, this afternoon for the third time in 5 days a mother called in tears, that the level of attacks and vitriol community sites had reached an all time high, they were closing their accounts for their safety and more importantly the safety of their family, reasons and moving.
Lakewood, what the hell is wrong with you?
We used to be a loving, healthy happy community. I have lived through a couple different "civil wars" the last being the worst, but rarely have residents turned against residents.
WTF? Just because there are a handful of haters, underwritten, empowered and normalized in part by City Hall does not mean you need to go along?
It has reached such. crescendo that more and more public figures are writing me, and sending me emails of threats from people running boards demanding participation or else. The School Board living in fear because of people demanding access, the judge, the library, non-profits, businesses even some of our contributors harassed for sharing or not sharing with extremely troubled individuals running sites.
Lakewood what happened to you?
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
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If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
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Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
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If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
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Bridget Conant
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Re: Has Hate Become Lakewood's Newest Product?
On the glitter and rainbows “Community” page run by Jen Pae, if you dare post anything they deem to be remotely “negative,” you are told to move if you don’t like it here.
Pretty condescending, don’t ya think?
Pretty condescending, don’t ya think?
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Re: Has Hate Become Lakewood's Newest Product?
Bridget Conant wrote:On the glitter and rainbows “Community” page run by Jen Pae, if you dare post anything they deem to be remotely “negative,” you are told to move if you don’t like it here.
Pretty condescending, don’t ya think?![]()
Bridget
I believe after numerous calls from ACLU and State Auditors, Jenn Pae has been relieved of all moderating duties, and is no longer allowed to post during work hours.
Mark Kindt, correct again.
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
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Dan Alaimo
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Re: Has Hate Become Lakewood's Newest Product?
Context is difficult to track on FB, and humor is tricky to convey in all electronic media. I read this in the context of a bunch of snow posts and thought it was an attempt at Cleveland weather humor that failed. You never know. The last time I reviewed it, it was in the midst of an entirely different set of posts.Bridget Conant wrote:On the glitter and rainbows “Community” page run by Jen Pae, if you dare post anything they deem to be remotely “negative,” you are told to move if you don’t like it here.
Pretty condescending, don’t ya think?
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Peter Grossetti
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Re: Has Hate Become Lakewood's Newest Product?
Maybe all of us who have been booted from that FB Page should apply for reinstatement then!Jim O'Bryan wrote: Jenn Pae has been relieved of all moderating duties,
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I’ll be sure to let you know how that goes!!!
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Bridget Conant
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Re: Has Hate Become Lakewood's Newest Product?
Yeah, I’d be surprised if that was true.
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dl meckes
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Re: Has Hate Become Lakewood's Newest Product?
what, What, WHAT?I believe after numerous calls from ACLU and State Auditors, Jenn Pae has been relieved of all moderating duties, and is no longer allowed to post during work hours.
Mark Kindt, correct again.
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dl meckes
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Re: Has Hate Become Lakewood's Newest Product?
Pae is still an admin of that Facebook page.
“One of they key problems today is that politics is such a disgrace. Good people don’t go into government.”- 45
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Bridget Conant
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Re: Has Hate Become Lakewood's Newest Product?
Too good to be true. No way is she giving up that cushy day job!
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Well then, she is not just the queen of misinformation, she has become the queen of hate in Lakewood.Bridget Conant wrote:Too good to be true. No way is she giving up that cushy day job!
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
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Bridget Conant
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Re: Has Hate Become Lakewood's Newest Product?
I’ve been blocked by Jen Pae’s “Community” page on Facebook.
Suckers!
I better get on Facebook and Twitter and cry like a sissy that I’ve been blocked!

Suckers!
I better get on Facebook and Twitter and cry like a sissy that I’ve been blocked!
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Bill Call
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Re: Has Hate Become Lakewood's Newest Product?
When the Mayor made his announcement about the closure of Lakewood Hospital at the Beck Center I think he was surprised at the level of disagreement. He and his friends spent the previous 5 years telling each other what a great idea it was. It never occurred to them that some people might disagree.
Rather than take a second look at the scheme they decided to threaten and intimidate, to bribe, to file false police reports, to misinform and to lie. They are still at it.
Who is the real hater?
Rather than take a second look at the scheme they decided to threaten and intimidate, to bribe, to file false police reports, to misinform and to lie. They are still at it.
Who is the real hater?
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Re: Has Hate Become Lakewood's Newest Product?
BillBill Call wrote:When the Mayor made his announcement about the closure of Lakewood Hospital at the Beck Center I think he was surprised at the level of disagreement. He and his friends spent the previous 5 years telling each other what a great idea it was. It never occurred to them that some people might disagree.
Rather than take a second look at the scheme they decided to threaten and intimidate, to bribe, to file false police reports, to misinform and to lie. They are still at it.
Who is the real hater?
Sadly it would seem intimidation is creeping back into the Lakewood discussion, as more people are saying to me, "I cannot comment on that, it could cost me my job, or effect my kids. I have been warned." Now this is bad enough when it comes from a person not directly connected to the debacle or object of discussion, but when the intimidation and veiled threats come from an employee of the government entity, it becomes hideous, sick and an attack on a person's First Amendment Rights as a citizen of the USA.
WTF is wrong with this community, that used to be loving, open, honest and a great place to call home no matter who you are?
The new Lakewood brand, thuggery.
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
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Mark Kindt
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Re: Has Hate Become Lakewood's Newest Product?
I am also hearing from local small business owners who have recently been blocked.
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Has Hate Become Lakewood's Newest Product?
Quite Possibly. But don't be foolish and think this site is not unlike any other.
Quite Possibly. But don't be foolish and think this site is not unlike any other.