Healthcare Is Changing: Metro to Open two New Community Hospitals in 2018
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Brian Essi
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Healthcare Is Changing: Metro to Open two New Community Hospitals in 2018
Opps Lakewood could have had a V-8, but for stupidity and a non-compete.
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Marguerite Harkness
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Re: Healthcare Is Changing: Metro to Open two New Community Hospitals in 2018
It is AMAZING to me, that they are SO GREEDY that they don't mind being called STUPID.
I have seen this same thought pattern, elsewhere.
I have seen this same thought pattern, elsewhere.
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Michael Deneen
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Re: Healthcare Is Changing: Metro to Open two New Community Hospitals in 2018
Stupidity? Heck no......Team Summers got exactly what it wanted.Brian Essi wrote:Opps Lakewood could have had a V-8, but for stupidity and a non-compete.
Among other things, Fitzy took care of his developer pals and "those people across W. 117th" won't be coming into town anymore for their healthcare. (which makes the alleged "No Hate Rally" so ironic).
It wasn't as smooth as they planned, but City Hall got EXACTLY what it wanted.
And of course, CCF made out like a bandit.
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Pam Wetula
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Re: Healthcare Is Changing: Metro to Open two New Community Hospitals in 2018
Mike Deneen is right!
These isms are the reason Fitz and Summers and friends made sure Metro could not get into Lakewood.
The Rally on Sunday was a nice moment but it will not change the core of our issues because we are uncomfortable talking or even thinking about institutional classism and racism and the effects they have on local residents via local policies and procedures espoused by our local government.
IF we were truly living a multicultural acceptance experience in Lakewood, the government elected and appointed officials would reflect our multiple cultures.
ONE of the Seven Councilpersons would be non-white. One out of every 7 employees in Lakewood would be non-white.
We can't even get find minorities running for office. How many working for Lakewood? How about on the Foundation Task Force? Frankly, very, very few were at the Rally on Sunday.
Perhaps we are not sending the message we think we are sending- that all are truly welcome to engage in ALL aspects of Lakewood's life.
Swastikas on a sidewalk is a terrible thing. Lack of leadership and government employment opportunities is much worse. Trying to keep "those people" out of Lakewood is horrific.
We should have had MetroHealth in Lakewood the moment the Clinic expressed an interest to rescind their contract. Avon, Westlake and a host of others including the new Metro locations, Parma and Cleveland Hts. are deemed to deserve full service healthcare and Fitzgerald, Summers and party decided Lakewood didn't.
Pathetic.
Like it or not, look away as you will...and most are...We have institutional classism and it's sibling institutional racism right here in Lakewood, Ohio.Stupidity? Heck no......Team Summers got exactly what it wanted.
Among other things, Fitzy took care of his developer pals and "those people across W. 117th" won't be coming into town anymore for their healthcare. (which makes the alleged "No Hate Rally" so ironic).
These isms are the reason Fitz and Summers and friends made sure Metro could not get into Lakewood.
The Rally on Sunday was a nice moment but it will not change the core of our issues because we are uncomfortable talking or even thinking about institutional classism and racism and the effects they have on local residents via local policies and procedures espoused by our local government.
IF we were truly living a multicultural acceptance experience in Lakewood, the government elected and appointed officials would reflect our multiple cultures.
ONE of the Seven Councilpersons would be non-white. One out of every 7 employees in Lakewood would be non-white.
We can't even get find minorities running for office. How many working for Lakewood? How about on the Foundation Task Force? Frankly, very, very few were at the Rally on Sunday.
Perhaps we are not sending the message we think we are sending- that all are truly welcome to engage in ALL aspects of Lakewood's life.
Swastikas on a sidewalk is a terrible thing. Lack of leadership and government employment opportunities is much worse. Trying to keep "those people" out of Lakewood is horrific.
We should have had MetroHealth in Lakewood the moment the Clinic expressed an interest to rescind their contract. Avon, Westlake and a host of others including the new Metro locations, Parma and Cleveland Hts. are deemed to deserve full service healthcare and Fitzgerald, Summers and party decided Lakewood didn't.
Pathetic.
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Dan Alaimo
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Re: Healthcare Is Changing: Metro to Open two New Community Hospitals in 2018
Where did this perception about Metro come from. I've been using Metro for a couple of years (since they bought HealthSpan/Kaiser) and it is first class medical care. I've had the clinic in the past and it is indeed very good, but Metro is comparable.
“Never let a good crisis go to waste." - Winston Churchill (Quote later appropriated by Rahm Emanuel)
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Michael Deneen
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Re: Healthcare Is Changing: Metro to Open two New Community Hospitals in 2018
Be careful here....it's not the color of the people in the seats, it's their mindset.Pam Wetula wrote:ONE of the Seven Councilpersons would be non-white. One out of every 7 employees in Lakewood would be non-white.
Some of them are very clearly racist......Summers and Bullock are the top examples.
It's spineless "democrats" like Marx and Anderson that enable these racists by remaining silent in the face of rather overt bigotry.
Even O'Malley is frightened to speak up....which will do huge damage to any future career he is planning in politics.
Someday folks will ask "Why didn't you speak out when a black girl was abused in your library? You had plenty to say when someone painted a swastika. Wasn't the police abuse worse?"
They'll try to explain their silence with some mealy-mouth nonsense.....voters outside this city won't stand for such nonsense.
These self-described "progressives" will someday have to run for office in a place that isn't overwhelmingly white. (Odd year local elections are notoriously tilted toward privileged white folks...that's why Ferguson was a black city with a white republican city hall).
The fact that "Sam the Sham" was a speaker at that event demonstrates the phoniness of it. He is more than happy to sit back and let racists Summers and Bullock do their thing.
I accidentally posted on Jen Pae's fake facebook page the other day. I suggested that repealing the pit bull ban would be a productive way to demonstrate acceptance.
Naturally, I was quickly shouted down by Jen Pae's hand-picked minion Corey Rossen.....he and some of the Kool-Aid drinkers were shocked that I would mention dogs in the same thread as swastikas. Some of them were feigning outrage, but others are so submersed in their privilege that they genuinely don't recognize the existence of "dog whistle" politics.
Until folks like that open their eyes to what's around them, "diversity" and "acceptance" will remain empty slogans.
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Pam Wetula
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Re: Healthcare Is Changing: Metro to Open two New Community Hospitals in 2018
by Dan Alaimo » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:30 pm
The perception is that they deal with the poor because they are a county hospital are seriously more dedicated to caring for the community at large than a for profit and prestige system.
The concept of Cleveland's poor staying in Cleveland instead of crossing the border into Lakewood to use our hospital is undesirable to Fitzgerald, Summers etc...
Because Metro accepts the poor with open arms ( I know they receive some county aid but that is a pittance next to what they spend on the uninsured), Metro is considered less prestigious than the Cleveland Clinic who spends millions upon millions of dollars telling the world how great they are. You do know how important it is to have a prestigious name on a building is to a city pushing a Gerntrification agenda! Summers et al would rather have an outhouse labeled CCF than a full service hospital bearing the name MetroHealth, despite the fact that Metro provides excellent care.
Metro maintains it's financial stability while serving patients from ALL walks of life. That is what you can do when you put healthcare first and marble, granite and millions of dollars in artwork second. Metro would have been perfect for Lakewood.
Dan, I know MetroHeath is a Top Notch healthcare system. Even their rates of infection spread are so low that they put other systems, including the CCF, to shame.Where did this perception about Metro come from. I've been using Metro for a couple of years (since they bought HealthSpan/Kaiser) and it is first class medical care. I've had the clinic in the past and it is indeed very good, but Metro is comparable.
The perception is that they deal with the poor because they are a county hospital are seriously more dedicated to caring for the community at large than a for profit and prestige system.
The concept of Cleveland's poor staying in Cleveland instead of crossing the border into Lakewood to use our hospital is undesirable to Fitzgerald, Summers etc...
Because Metro accepts the poor with open arms ( I know they receive some county aid but that is a pittance next to what they spend on the uninsured), Metro is considered less prestigious than the Cleveland Clinic who spends millions upon millions of dollars telling the world how great they are. You do know how important it is to have a prestigious name on a building is to a city pushing a Gerntrification agenda! Summers et al would rather have an outhouse labeled CCF than a full service hospital bearing the name MetroHealth, despite the fact that Metro provides excellent care.
Metro maintains it's financial stability while serving patients from ALL walks of life. That is what you can do when you put healthcare first and marble, granite and millions of dollars in artwork second. Metro would have been perfect for Lakewood.