Was The Mobile Stroke Unit Show Just Another Ploy by Summers, Gilman, & Co.?

[mjkuhns]

But what about our local stroke unit?

Facts and figures?

Exactly. If anyone believes that I need to further elaborate the nature of my doubts, or explain why the fire chief's comment demonstrates rather than responds to them, just let me know. Otherwise, I will presume that we're all clear on these matters.

(I will add that the Cleveland Clinic began promoting its Mobile Stroke Unit three years ago. If this incredibly well-resourced organization doesn't already have independently verifiable, aggregate numbers about its practical impacts by now… I will propose that this is very reasonable cause to suggest that aggregate, practical impact is not a serious consideration of the program.)

[Lori Allen _]

My mom's friends who live in the senior buildings in Lakewood said that Mr. Summers and Mr. Gilman bragged about the great healthcare coming to Lakewood and how safe they would be with the mobile stroke unit. They even brought the seniors cookies to try to butter them up!

Again, more lies from the alleged criminal Summers and his side kick Gilman, the man giving medical advice while his paramedic license had been in expired status for nine years.

Mr. Summers, just so you and Mr. Gilman know, the old folks didn't fall for it. Most of them had you two pegged for scammers right from the very beginning.

[Bridget Conant]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.c ... stroke.amp

We should have numbers by now. How many calls where the Stroke Unit was dispatched, how many patients received actual treatment in the unit? Not in total, just Lakewood utilization.

This isn't hard.

Mr Gilman, what are the stats on the deployment of the Mobike Stroke Unit since it was introduced to Lakewood?

BTW, the article shows that the unit is stationed at the CC main campus. It can be deployed to 21 communities. It is NOT specific to Lakewood.

[Kate McCarthy]

I have seen it once. It was on MLK driving through the cultural gardens and didn't appear to be in a hurry so perhaps it was dispatched to Euclid to show all those folks that they don't need a hospital either. And there certainly should be numbers by now on how many persons have been treated in Lakewood by the mobile stroke unit.

[Lori Allen _]

I think this thread has gone slightly off track.

Nice try Mr. Summers!

You should not count on any information from Mr. Summers and his side kick Fire Chief Gilman, who was spreading lies around town , with Summers, about how great the new health care in Lakewood was going to be. Mr., I have not had a paramedic license for nine years, but, I will give medical advice.

They just failed to mention all the alleged crimes that were committed in order to take down Lakewood Hospital first.

Instead of worrying about statistics,I would think, unless you are a Summers supporter, that you would care more about the alleged crimes committed by Summers, Council, and the Summers gang. This involves way more than just the alleged illegal take down of Lakewood Hospital.

Jim is right. People had better start paying attention and reading the posts that Jim, Brian ,myself and others
post here. Be proactive instead of reactive.

Mr. Summers and his gang are not nice, moral people. I don't understand why people insist upon covering up the posts for this man. Is anyone being threatened? Extorted? If so, Go to the FBI immediately. I believe extortion is a felony.

[Bridget Conant]

Let's focus on the facts regarding the Mobike Stroke Unit that the Cleveland Clinic and the city touted as a state of the art unit that would improve our health and safety.

Mr Gilman, please provide the statistics regarding the utilization of the Mobile Stroke Unit since it was placed into service in November 2016.

How many times was the unit dispatched to Lakewood?

How many Lakewood patients received critical and timely care from this mobile unit?

This isn't hard. Please provide these statistics.

[Lori Allen _]

Thanks for proving my point!

Mr. Summers, trust me, you will not win!

Please see my above posts that Mr. Summers is trying so desperately to hide.

As I have mentioned many times above, the Mobile Stroke Unit does nothing for Lakewood. It is stationed at the Main Campus east of Downtown Cleveland. I would call the Ohio Department of Health and the CDC. Their contact information can be found online.

I would not rely on information from Mr. Gilman, seeing as he was practicing over nine years without a paramedic license, and the last time I checked, still doesn't have one.

Mr. Summers, even though you are not capable of being the Mayor, for the time being, we are paying you a salary to work, not to troll the Deck all day with your buddies. Please find something ethical and legal to do for the tax payers of Lakewood.

In fact, I believe Mr. Summers, if I were you, I would find myself a better attorney! Your going to need it soon!

[Dan Alaimo]

The references to Chief Gilman's paramedic licence every time he posts something here are just plain annoying to me. So too the notion that Mayor Summers is somehow inserting himself in the conversation.

This offensiveness makes it harder to respond effectively to the Chief's non-answer to the topic at hand.

[Lori Allen _]

It is very relevant if the Chief continues to give medical opinions/advice without a license. It is also relevant that he was apparently giving advice to the public with no license for over nine years. I believe it has now been over ten years. Mr. Summers put himself in the middle of this, and that makes him always relevant.

I find it hard to believe that some of us were once members of Save Lakewood Hospital. It could not be more obvious that some of us have apparently gone to the dark side to rally for Mr. Summers.

It appears to me that some of us are not paying attention to the damage that Summers & Company have done to this city.

It is easier to complain and moan than to actually take action. Talking the talk is one thing. Walking the walk is another.

Those offended by anti-Summers rhetoric may find more friends on websites such as Patch, Buzz, and Lakewood Community Facebook page.

To get this thread back on track:

- The mobile stroke unit is stored at E. 93rd & Euclid.
- This unit is virtually useless, as in most cases, a patient could probably be taken to Fairview or perhaps even Avon before the mobile stroke unit arrives in Lakewood.

I believe I have mentioned several agencies to contact in order to obtain the statistics some of us are seeking. At this point, anything produced by Lakewood should be automatically suspect.

It was another ploy by City Hall, funded by taxpayers using city employees to spin the message. That is the bottom line.

[Jim O'Bryan]

Lori

I know I will accused of being a stooge from the dark side of Mayor Summers but...

I remember many conversations about how current ambulances are saving stroke victims. One of the reasons Lakewood Hospital was so good at immediate stroke healthcare was that our ambulance medics were allowed to administer stroke life saving medicine, and it was always kept in the ambulances. I do not remember the promise of an actual "stroke unit" which I have no doubt is a show-n-tell piece. I have seen a couple stroke units around the county, perhaps coming from a parade?

Excuse me, so many crazy lies, bs, misinformation, etc. I might have missed it or forgotten about it.

As we both know, this administration has given "The Producers" a run for the money in over promising and under delivering on basically anything they promise.

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[T Peppard]

I have seen it once. It was on MLK driving through the cultural gardens and didn't appear to be in a hurry so perhaps it was dispatched to Euclid to show all those folks that they don't need a hospital either. And there certainly should be numbers by now on how many persons have been treated in Lakewood by the mobile stroke unit.

My mother is currently at Hilcrest hospital for a procedure formerly done at Euclid. I have notified the mayor, council and State Rep Kent Smith to express my concerns. The response from the CCF was that they have no intention to abandon Euclid hospital. I told them to be proactive and watch for requests to rezone that property. Councilmen Mike Polensek is also aware of this concern. I believe Euclid is adjacent to his ward. Unlike our councilmembers, he isn't afraid to speak out.

[Stan Austin]

Tara--- Euclid hospital is toast. Stan Austin

[Bridget Conant]

Tara--- Euclid hospital is toast. Stan Austin

My prediction: next two that the Clinic will close- Euclid and Marymount.

[Stan Austin]

They are being decanted, shut down as we speak. Great medical care!!! CCF---what in the f*** are you doing? Can all those new high rises take care of folks walking in on the street?

[Bridget Conant]

Hoping our fire chief will respond seeing as he's browsing the Deck at the moment.