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Lakewoodites Protesting Trump's Select Muslim Country Ban

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While at the latest Trump Protest, once again tied to countrywide protests. Americans took to the streets, errr make that airports in the latest version. Protesting Trump's latest blunder, tens of thousands show up again all over the country at airports across the country.

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A large crowd showed up on a cold snowy day to let people know how they felt.

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See all the photos at: http://www.lakewoodobserver.com/photobl ... t-01292017

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Yes and notice that Saudi Arabia wasn't one of the banned countries? Or Turkey?

Yet most of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudi.

But Trump has extensive business dealings in Saudi Arabia.

He has none in the seven countries he selected.
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What does the Lakewood Republican Club have to say about this matter?
I have asked them about Trump multiple times on their FB page, and they refuse to answer.
They are eerily silent on the subject of Trump.

If they were to come out and renounce Trump quickly, they would get a lot of respect here in Lakewood.
Heck, it might even make national news.
If they are just going to sit on the sideline, then what purpose does the group serve?
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Trump only wants to let "hot" Eastern European females enter the US. That Melania is nearing her expiration date.
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Remember this? Thought not....



I guess the difference between Ds and Rs is that Rs do what they say they will (for better or worse). Plus when a D gets elected with 42% of the popular vote, that's OK.

Mike the DNC and the RNC are no different than Monsanto. They are self-interested and seek primarily money.

(BTW I'm OK with letting in the hot eastern European women....)
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Tim Liston wrote:Remember this? Thought not....

I guess the difference between Ds and Rs is that Rs do what they say they will (for better or worse). Plus when a D gets elected with 42% of the popular vote, that's OK.

Tim, another difference...



Could be a tad blue...


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Bridget Conant wrote:Yes and notice that Saudi Arabia wasn't one of the banned countries? Or Turkey?

Yet most of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudi.

But Trump has extensive business dealings in Saudi Arabia.

He has none in the seven countries he selected.
Calm down, stop believing the hype. Trump used the 7 "countries of concern" that the Obama administration flagged. This is also only temporary while he revamps the screening system. This is part of his plan to make America great by ensuring he is making America safer.
Michael Deneen wrote:What does the Lakewood Republican Club have to say about this matter?
I have asked them about Trump multiple times on their FB page, and they refuse to answer.
They are eerily silent on the subject of Trump.

If they were to come out and renounce Trump quickly, they would get a lot of respect here in Lakewood.
Heck, it might even make national news.
If they are just going to sit on the sideline, then what purpose does the group serve?
Mike, this is the type of comment combined with your lies about Summers being a republican most of his life that finally led me to unfriend you on facebook. You are a broken record even after you hear the answer. I am sorry if it isn't the answer you are looking for. The Lakewood Republican Club is focused on local races and issues. That explains why we haven't made any statements on Trump. Personally I am excited he is in office and doing what he said he would do, especially compared to the disaster that Hillary would have been. It is also amazing to see the hypocrisy from the left and all the hate from them even while they all have their "love trumps hate" bumper stickers. :)
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Ryan Salo wrote: The Lakewood Republican Club is focused on local races and issues.

Ryan


At least someone is. It would appear that Lakewood Democrats have turned their back on holding their local elected officials accountable in favor attacking national windmills.

With many local Dems, not Mike, when Trump does it, it is hell. When Mayor Summers does it, he is heavenly.

Time to hold all of them accountable.

Here is how people have to start looking at things in this over polarized society. "What if the other guys were doing it?" "What if we were do it?" If the answers are different, you got issues.

How the hell did a country of billions come down to two views on everything? Have Americans lost our nuance?

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Ryan Salo wrote:Mike, this is the type of comment combined with your lies about Summers being a republican most of his life that finally led me to unfriend you on facebook. You are a broken record even after you hear the answer.
I've been a Lakewood Dem for LONG time (since 1991). Summers never came around until the local GOP club died. That's a fact.
As for "being a broken record", that's the same response I get from Jen Pae. I stick to the truth and am not afraid to repeat it.

Ryan Salo wrote:The Lakewood Republican Club is focused on local races and issues. That explains why we haven't made any statements on Trump.
We are barreling towards a constitutional crisis, and a polltical organization has NO STANCE?
Jim O'Bryan wrote:Personally I am excited he is in office and doing what he said he would do, especially compared to the disaster that Hillary would have been.
I have been very critical of Hillary throughout the election process (I am not a partisan hack). However, there is no doubt that the US would be better (and maybe bigger?) hands with her.
Jim O'Bryan wrote: It is also amazing to see the hypocrisy from the left and all the hate
I"ve been pointing out the hypocrisy of so called "Lakewood Democrats" all along. That's the whole point of "Twilight's Last Gleaming".
The Lakewood Republican Club has now joined that hypocrisy....they are willing to call out Summers, but remain silent on Trump.
Speaking of hate, your guy Trump has a Neo-Nazi sitting in at national security meetings.
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Tim Liston wrote:Mike the DNC and the RNC are no different than Monsanto.
I actually compare them to Coke and Pepsi. Or perhaps the Crips and Bloods.
There isn't much difference between the corporate GOP (a la Papa Bush, Kasich) and the corporate Dems (Hillary, Budish, Bullock)
They all bow down to moneyed interests, and use the social issues as a device to get voters to go against their own interests.

Here's the difference:
We have local Dems that are fighting the Corporatists from within the party. The CCPC is strong evidence of that.
It won't be easy, but at least they're fighting.
I have seen no such effort among republicans.
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Amen, Jim!

The spirit behind this ban is no doubt a responsibility of both parties. I don't see how you (I'm not pointing the finger at anyone - just speaking generally) can be against Trump's Muslim ban, and not against Obama's/Hillary's drones that were extrajudicially taking people's lives in some of these same countries. Even worse, how about our support of Saudi Arabia's devastating attacks on Yemen's civilians? Obama sold Saudi Arabia $115 billion in weapons (more than any other president), and Tillerson doesn't seem to be opposed to their use of internationally banned cluster weapons. To me, murder/war is much more severe than banning travel, but as long as something is finally getting criticized within the USA, I'm happy.

This is all enabled by a divisive fear/evil both political parties of the USA are plagued with - a neo-crusade against Islam. And of course, the divisiveness is politically-charged, because there's absolutely nothing in the bible that justifies anything but peace and love for Muslims. Same with Muslims towards Christians. Likewise, to say the intention of this ban is to "make America safe" is straight up manipulative and conflicts with the explanation of the ban's architect.

Fast forward to 3:00 of this video (https://youtu.be/l9GKL6i38pI?t=2m57s), and if you still believe we're "making America safe", then please ask yourself, "From what!?" Even a known warmonger like McCain is honest enough to admit, "We fear this executive order may do more to help terrorist recruitment than improve our security."

When choosing where to stand on this issue, we have three choices:
1) Magnify the divisiveness by pointing the finger at a race, religion, or civilians of another nation (i.e. general groups of people like you and me).
2) Stand by idly and enable these atrocities to continue.
3) Protest this gross assault on human rights and do what we can to prevent it.

When I was a kid and learned about slavery and segregation, I told myself I never would have stood by as those human rights were abused. Today, it's gut check time. Yes, it's been in motion of a long time masked by the loosely applied word "terrorist", but today, our country is officially and outwardly adopting a much broader attack on a religion (that happens to translate to "peace"). The broader the assault, the greater the amount of alarms that should be going off in our heads. We should all be questioning, "Who am I being instructed to hate, and why?"

Anyways, thanks for the photos yesterday, Jim! It was great seeing you there! To all else, that's me in the first one. The sign was a general and specific statement at the same time. I have neighbors on my street that are Iranian. The wife can no longer travel home to visit her family and vice versa even though they were doing so on a regular basis. Absolutely ridiculous.
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Jordan--- fabulous post! Stan Austin
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At least a few Lakewoodites took part in a rally and march from Ohio City to downtown Cleveland, yesterday afternoon, on the same topic. I was there, and saw a few other people I recognized from Lakewood. More were probably there as well; it was a good crowd (Scene estimates more than 2,000), which was inspiring on a cold, breezy weekday.

The organizers had a number of good speakers, some of whom echoed the excellent points raised by Mr. Tadic.

A few photos, just to provide a sense of things.

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And here is Scene's write-up, if anyone would like to read a bit more.
http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-hea ... -cleveland
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