Lakewood Voters for Progress? Save Lakewood Hospital? Neither?
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Lakewood Voters for Progress? Save Lakewood Hospital? Neither?
There is a massive misconception around the City of Lakewood that you are either a member of Lakewood Voters For Progress, or Save Lakewood Hospital. That's a falsehood.
There is a much larger and growing faction of the community, that is desperate for accountability, transparency, and an honest discussion about what went on and why? And not until we have that discussion and understanding do we dare make our next move. The Community of Lakewood has every right to see the documents, and understand why we lost our anchor after decades of doing everything to secure it? At the same time, to rush off headlong into something that has only been discussed for weeks, seems like a terrible way to actually plan the future of all.
A group of us that believe, we might not need a hospital, but what is the impact, and why did we lose it? Never honestly explained. Never, Documents not being made available that should be.
At the same time we are witnessing a war of misinformation tearing the community apart, why can't the city just make it public and clear it up?
Mayor Summers, you alone can stop this, make the records public.
Be that Mayor that brought wellness, honesty and accountability to Lakewood.
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There is a much larger and growing faction of the community, that is desperate for accountability, transparency, and an honest discussion about what went on and why? And not until we have that discussion and understanding do we dare make our next move. The Community of Lakewood has every right to see the documents, and understand why we lost our anchor after decades of doing everything to secure it? At the same time, to rush off headlong into something that has only been discussed for weeks, seems like a terrible way to actually plan the future of all.
A group of us that believe, we might not need a hospital, but what is the impact, and why did we lose it? Never honestly explained. Never, Documents not being made available that should be.
At the same time we are witnessing a war of misinformation tearing the community apart, why can't the city just make it public and clear it up?
Mayor Summers, you alone can stop this, make the records public.
Be that Mayor that brought wellness, honesty and accountability to Lakewood.
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
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Brian Essi
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Re: Lakewood Voters for Progress? Save Lakewood Hospital? Neither?
Summers does not care about Lakewood.
He does not care about division.
He does not care about truth.
All he cares about is "winning"
The stated goal of his dark money PAC of insiders spreading lies is "to win".
He's got Jay Carson and his other creepy trolling goons "to win"
He's co-opted otherwise decent folks to believe his lies and repeat them.
And all with a fake smile--like the one he wore last night while he sent his surrogates to divide.
He does not care about division.
He does not care about truth.
All he cares about is "winning"
The stated goal of his dark money PAC of insiders spreading lies is "to win".
He's got Jay Carson and his other creepy trolling goons "to win"
He's co-opted otherwise decent folks to believe his lies and repeat them.
And all with a fake smile--like the one he wore last night while he sent his surrogates to divide.
David Anderson has no legitimate answers
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Patrick Wadden
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Re: Lakewood Voters for Progress? Save Lakewood Hospital? Neither?
Who did he send to divide? How did they divide? You were there so explain specifically, who and how they divided. Was it Dan O''Malley that divided? Was it Tom B? Was it.......who was it?
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Patrick Wadden
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Re: Lakewood Voters for Progress? Save Lakewood Hospital? Neither?
JOB Quote:
"A group of us that believe, we might not need a hospital,"
Omg! Jim, careful, you are going to get calls from people (upperdeckers) that will strongly disagree with you.
"A group of us that believe, we might not need a hospital,"
Omg! Jim, careful, you are going to get calls from people (upperdeckers) that will strongly disagree with you.
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Brian Essi
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Sam O'Leary and David Anderson were sent to divide.Patrick Wadden wrote:Who did he send to divide? How did they divide? You were there so explain specifically, who and how they divided. Was it Dan O''Malley that divided? Was it Tom B? Was it.......who was it?
I was not there--I've watched the videos.
Just listen to their speeches.
They made false claims about the Master Agreement, the LOI, the process, the outcome, the source of money,"no other option", "no possible legal outcome", "only possible outcome" etc.
O'Leary was arrogant, insulting and divisive.
O'Leary and Anderson were both on the Host Committee of the Insiders PAC For Fraud raising money with lies to spread lies.
The lies are all documented.
David Anderson has no legitimate answers
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james fitzgibbons
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Re: Lakewood Voters for Progress? Save Lakewood Hospital? Neither?
You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time. Abraham LincolnBrian Essi wrote:Sam O'Leary and David Anderson were sent to divide.Patrick Wadden wrote:Who did he send to divide? How did they divide? You were there so explain specifically, who and how they divided. Was it Dan O''Malley that divided? Was it Tom B? Was it.......who was it?
I was not there--I've watched the videos.
Just listen to their speeches.
They made false claims about the Master Agreement, the LOI, the process, the outcome, the source of money,"no other option", "no possible legal outcome", "only possible outcome" etc.
O'Leary was arrogant, insulting and divisive.
O'Leary and Anderson were both on the Host Committee of the Insiders PAC For Fraud raising money with lies to spread lies.
The lies are all documented.
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Re: Lakewood Voters for Progress? Save Lakewood Hospital? Neither?
Patrick Wadden wrote:JOB Quote:
"A group of us that believe, we might not need a hospital,"
Omg! Jim, careful, you are going to get calls from people (upperdeckers) that will strongly disagree with you.
Patrick
I think a retired graphic designer/photographer is a bad source on running a multi-million dollar medical facility. No OMG, a simple fact.
However I hope we can all agree no matter what we do, our age, our place in life, that.
ELECTED OFFICIALS SHOULD NOT LIE, and CITY HALL SHOULD BE TRANSPARENT.
We have a mayor and council members that have lied about the biggest deal in Lakewood for 50 years. Not made mistakes, but made premeditated lies to confuse and buy time.
That alone should make everyone want to see the paperwork.
But when the government spent hundreds of thousands of tax payer dollars for Crisis Management, false mailings, and a strategy to misinformation and intimidate voters.
Everything needs to stop, this a a major moment in Lakewood, we need to check it. Months ago I feared the i's remained undotted, and t's not crossed. Well it seems like it is much worse than that.
I'm not a member of anything but the Observer. I am tired of the lies and BS, Mayor Summers can stop all of the crap, Monday morning at 8am.
He needs to open the books, disclose the thousands of documents he has fought to keep from the voters and public. Turn over the documents that have been requested by my lawyers, and others.
Let's be known as the city that is healthy in MIND and BODY.
To Mike Summers
PLEASE, BE THE MAYOR WE THOUGHT YOU COULD BE, it is a terrible way to end a career and ruin a legacy. Fighting against the constitutional rights of residents and businesses.
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Jim O'Bryan
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
Lakewood Resident
"The very act of observing disturbs the system."
Werner Heisenberg
"If anything I've said seems useful to you, I'm glad.
If not, don't worry. Just forget about it."
His Holiness The Dalai Lama
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cmager
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Re: Lakewood Voters for Progress? Save Lakewood Hospital? Neither?
Lakewood Hospital was profitable right until that point at which they transferred services (Cath Lab, etc) to other locations. PLUS the Cleveland Clinic was charging a $25M a year management fee to Lakewood, which existed nowhere else in the Clinic network. The Clinic and conspiring insiders worked against the hospital over a period of 5-8 years. Until the end, this was a week-financed and profitable hospital worth at least $150M in hard assets, with 1000 high-paying 24/7 jobs and an annual economic and healthcare benefit to the city that exceeded even that number. Yet the Clinic took all the hospital assets for pennies on the dollar - like $20-30M, in a rigged bidding process that favored only the Clinic and excluded other buyers.
Go to Fairview and Avon if you want to visit with Lakewood's assets, which were owned ultimately by the citizens of Lakewood.
I'm not saying that you want the same Lakewood Hospital, but you want a real hospital with the assets that belong to Lakewood. At this point those assets have been stolen.
Tell your friends. Read, read, and read some more. Tell them to VOTE. If they agree that Lakewood has been wronged, and don't want to agree to this disaster that is the master agreement, tell them to vote AGAINST the referendum.
Go to Fairview and Avon if you want to visit with Lakewood's assets, which were owned ultimately by the citizens of Lakewood.
I'm not saying that you want the same Lakewood Hospital, but you want a real hospital with the assets that belong to Lakewood. At this point those assets have been stolen.
Tell your friends. Read, read, and read some more. Tell them to VOTE. If they agree that Lakewood has been wronged, and don't want to agree to this disaster that is the master agreement, tell them to vote AGAINST the referendum.