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Are the City of Lakewood's Properties Now Trashy?

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Sorry, but this had to get its own thread.

This is in regards to one of the city-owned houses on Belle Ave. near the new urgent care. The address is 1466 Belle. Last night or very early this morning, the residents that live here put out a bunch of furniture on the tree lawn. Belle Ave. does not have their garbage picked up until Wednesday.

The city has rented this property out to a few people, apparently two women and a younger man, according to public records.

You can say that this property is leased by CCF and that City Hall has no control, but if City Hall's name is on the deed, the ultimate responsibility falls on City Hall.

Will City Hall fine themselves? :lol: In all seriousness, someone needs to be fined for this. Perhaps the residents will be fined. That would be the ideal situation.
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Lori Allen _ wrote:Sorry, but this had to get its own thread.

Lori


I am not convinced it needs it own thread.

Will be joined with your other trash thread.


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Look into the row of rental houses on St Charles by the PO that CCF was supposed to maintain but instead neglected. Now the city and the Clinic are pointing fingers at each other saying it's the other's fault that the properties all are so neglected that they have violations and neither want to take responsibility or put up the money to repair the homes.

Talk to some of those renters and see how they've been ignored.
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Bridget,

All the more excuse to raze those houses for development. Then, we can have vacant lots for years and years. Or maybe soccer fields.

Jim,

If this is going to be moved, then every time someone hijacks a thread with political garbage, that should be moved to global. Of course, it won't.
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Lori Allen _ wrote:Bridget,

All the more excuse to raze those houses for development. Then, we can have vacant lots for years and years. Or maybe soccer fields.

Jim,

If this is going to be moved, then every time someone hijacks a thread with political garbage, that should be moved to global. Of course, it won't.

Lori, agree with your comment to Bridgette.

As for the political hijacking, if it was a trash to pitch for donald or hillary, maybe. But Trump and Hillary have Lakewood ties, if worked correctly. Both of them have been here, and Lakewoodites vote for them.

I was woken this morning, by a person complaining that she was being singled out on the Deck for trash. That all they were doing was completely legal, and the city really has left them no choice. 98% of their trash is sorted recycling, they put it out the night before trash collection, after 9pm, and it is collected next morning, but you still singled them out. They raised an honest question, why are they singled out? Why are people doing things legal and forced on them by the city singled out?

So I read the Trash thread twice. Then saw the new thread, it looks, reads and looks just like the other thread.

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Lori Allen _ wrote:Bridget,

All the more excuse to raze those houses for development. Then, we can have vacant lots for years and years. Or maybe soccer fields.

Jim,

If this is going to be moved, then every time someone hijacks a thread with political garbage, that should be moved to global. Of course, it won't.
Hi, Lori -

I'm a bit confused about your definition of "political." What is more "political" than a thread - such as this one - citing the maladies of City Hall.
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1777.01 REFUSE OR DEBRIS REMOVAL.
(a) The owner, occupant or person having the charge or management of any lot or parcel of land situated within the City, whether the same be improved or unimproved, vacant or occupied, shall not permit refuse or debris to be placed on the tree lawn for collection prior to 6:00 p.m. on the evening before regular refuse collection for that property.
521.06 DUTY TO KEEP SIDEWALKS IN REPAIR AND CLEAN.

Every owner, occupant or person having charge of any tenement building, lot or land fronting upon any avenue, street, alley or other public highway of the City shall keep the entire width of such sidewalk from curb to lot line, free and clear of all earth, sand, brick, stone, rubbish, dead trees and dead branches of trees or other material which from any cause whatever shall have accumulated or may accumulate upon such sidewalk above the established grade of the same and shall also cut and remove from the sidewalk between the lot and curb line, all weeds, grass and vegetable growths that are more than four inches in height.
As for the Root, yes, it was out on time. However, refer to the second ordinance listed above. It mentions rubbish. The entire sidewalk was covered with their trash. That is not "legal". If I ever get in trouble for something, I will try saying "the city left me no choice" and I'll see what happens. What about blind people or those in wheelchairs? This is in downtown Lakewood where people walk and drunks stumble around at night. The trash people complain about it being a mess all the time. The Root has gotten multiple "letters" about the issue.

For the other two, Gorilla and Dimit, both were out well before "6:00 P.M. on the evening before regular refuse collection". I guess I will have to start getting timestamps for everything.

It's called following the law. It seems to be harder and harder for people in this city, and the rest of the world to comprehend. Yet it is so simple.

If businesses find it difficult to follow the refuse laws, perhaps they should look into getting a private service.

It's quite obvious that the pictures are really bothering some people, especially City Hall. Last time I checked, I am free to take pictures of anything on or visible from the public right-of-way. It is not illegal. It's called "freedom of movement" and "freedom of expression".

I get it though. I'm the bad guy for wanting the laws to be enforced equally across the board and for wanting to keep Lakewood nice. :roll:

For whomever complained, all they have to do is follow the law. It's very simple.
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Lori Allen _ wrote: If this is going to be moved, then every time someone hijacks a thread with political garbage, that should be moved to global. Of course, it won't.
To me there's a difference between being moved to a thread that will be near the top of the Community forum list, than the secondary forums, where it will take several clicks and an indeterminate length of time waiting for a slow connection or computer/mobile device to view.

I didn't notice any calls to move to Global comparisons of the local administration to Nixon. It must have been the hot button: "Trump."
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521.06 DUTY TO KEEP SIDEWALKS IN REPAIR AND CLEAN.

As for the Root, yes, it was out on time. However, refer to the second ordinance listed above. It mentions rubbish. The entire sidewalk was covered with their trash. That is not "legal". If I ever get in trouble for something, I will try saying "the city left me no choice" and I'll see what happens. What about blind people or those in wheelchairs? This is in downtown Lakewood where people walk and drunks stumble around at night. The trash people complain about it being a mess all the time. The Root has gotten multiple "letters" about the issue.
Lori, the move from back to front has made it a nightmare for many. I guess a real nightmare for you.

As you point out many people on the street at night.

I find it hard to single out a business, that us trying to do the right thing, when so many are not even trying.

But that is me.


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When you keep getting letters from the city, I would think that the issue could eventually be rectified somehow, but to each his own.

The citizens and businesses alike have to work together to keep the city as nice as possible, as the seven that meet at City Hall twice a month appear to do little to nothing in this regard.

We should be grateful that there are some people that actually care. There are now some areas of the city that are almost beyond help in many aspects. It's too bad that are not enough people that care and want to get their hands a little dirty to really make a huge dent.

If this business needs some money to buy cans or something, I'm sure some loyal customers and community members could scrape up enough to donate, although the business needs to be the one to initiate this. There are many free areas to post bulletins, both online and around town.
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Have I been hijacked? robbed? pushed aside like yesterdays trash?
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I could be wrong, but I thought this topic had it's own thread, "Lakewood Trash" am I being denied my glory? Is house to house searching next? Where is Ralph Nader when you need him.
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Thanks Jim, :)
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Thanks Jim, :)
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Obviously, I can't thank you enough, my bad,
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