December 7 2015 Press Conference

[Corey Rossen]

I have to agree with Corey that he does not understand and he does not know about such things.

Correct, and that is why I asked. Also, how many requests have been made to the City (I think I saw the number 196 by Essi alone on one posted email account) in total in this timeframe? How many hours is spent finding each answer, good or bad question? How many total hours spent chasing answers for the total amount of questions in the timeframe? How much has it cost me and the citizens in wages to the people finding the answers? I think some of the answer I don't want to know - such as how much has it cost me to have the City chase bad questions, vague questions or questions without answers and who asked those questions.

Add on:

I also see that each time Essi requests in a vague manner (Essi requests via posting here are the only ones I have ever seen) the researcher has to look for and research the answer and when it is deemed to vague must look up and research the appropriate court case and site it in order to show legality. This seems like a lot of research and time on a single question. Top that with however many they do in a year, and then how much wages they have earned and time they have spent, seems like it must be a lot.

It is also ironic to me that someone asks for time consuming requests by the truckload and then complains that no other work is being done. It's like me asking someone to paint the fence and then yell because the lawn hasn't been mowed yet.

[Brian Essi]

Corey,

It seems that lies by elected officials and those aligned with them are the first recourse of any public discussion. Each of your hateful posts personally attacking me with lies underscores your support for and defense of a $125M rip off of the taxpayers and the underserved yet you repeatedly make false claims that you are somehow "nuetral".

Why do you relentlessly attempt to decieve?

You have introduced a frivolous lawsuit to the Deck that seeks to destroy an important Lakewood institution--an institution that you continuously attack and degrade in a hateful mean spirited way. You support the bogus lawsuit designed to silence the truth telling about the corrupt destruction of another important life saving institution all the while you head Jordan's Family Foundation which is supposed to be about saving the lives of children. How do you reconcile the two?

If you had actually done the research to dig up the filthy lawsuit you support, then you could easily get the answers to your own questions above about my lawsuit which is designed to gained evidence that could result in the return of the $125M "stolen" from the taxpayers and the underserved. If Carson or Uldricks fed you the other lawsuit, perhaps you could give them a jingle to have them retrieve the court records that contain the answers you claim to seek. Or is it that you know the answers betray the bogus innuendos in your feeble questions?

The few public records produced so far have exposed, among other things, that your freind, attorney Jay Carson, has bird dogged for Tom Bullock and has defended your other freind, Uldricks, who while under police investigation admitted to sending anonymous posts cards to citizens who opposed his city boss (Summers) which even the city human resource lady says were "meant to intimidate" those citizens. So again, it appears that your freind Carson, who claims to hate bullies, proactively defended one under investigation for arguably being a "bully" and who was previously convicted of "telecommunications Harrassment" involving anti-Semitic hate and strong and bizarre sexual content.

In short, your posts track the dishonesty of Bullock (an apparent freind of your freind Carson) that was the original subject of this thread.

My public records requests have not cost the taxpayers anything.

So riddle me this Mr. President of JFF: Why are you so passionate about attacking a person trying to return $125M to a public charity and the underserved to save lives?

[Corey Rossen]

Responses below.

Corey,

It seems that lies by elected officials and those aligned with them are the first recourse of any public discussion.

Each of your hateful posts... - I have no hate, just you putting words into my mouth to make it appear that I am a bad person. Stop continuously trying to put words into my mouth. It seems to be one of your favorite approaches to divert and deflect from yourself.

...personally attacking me with lies underscores... - I cannot determine your lies from your truths. When I ask questions they all have gone unanswered, deflected and tangled in your attempts to put words back into my mouth rather just answer simple questions. In using your own "non-response approach" there are many details about you and your approaches that seem very uncertain and gray. Though as uncomfortable as it may be for you, sometimes it may just be better to answer questions than leave everything as a non-response.

...your support for and defense of a $125M rip off of the taxpayers and the underserved... - Same attempt. I have not shown support of either side, yet I continuously have to tell you this. I have no hate, just you putting words into my mouth to make it appear that I am a bad person. Stop continuously trying to put words into my mouth. It seems to be one of your favorite approaches to divert and deflect from yourself.


yet you repeatedly make false claims that you are somehow "nuetral". - Still, I am neutral. Do your research here on the Deck. You might actually like the results!

Why do you relentlessly attempt to decieve? - Decieve what?

You have introduced a frivolous lawsuit to the Deck that seeks to destroy an important Lakewood institution-- Isn't this what you are using the digital fence for - exposing things? Is that it's true intent? It is public record, I did not disclose anything. Funny that you value the Deck more than the City of Lakewood, by you criticizing me for talking poorly about the Deck when you want to shut down the entire city of Lakewood. It is a shame that you can't see your own irony and hypocrisy.

an institution that you continuously attack and degrade in a hateful mean spirited way. - I have no hate, nor am I mean.

You support the bogus lawsuit designed to silence the truth telling about the corrupt destruction of another important life saving institution all the while you head Jordan's Family Foundation which is supposed to be about saving the lives of children. How do you reconcile the two? -- You keep bringing the charity into this. I find it a low and shady attempt to try to discredit my character. I know this is an attorney antic and I find it as one reason why attorneys may be the punchline of many mean spirited jokes. You could act above this level, but you choose not you, that says volumes about you and your character. You have never met me other than one dimensionally through the Deck because I do not drink your brand of Kool Aid - that is it, yet you seem to think that you can judge me - that shows volumes of your elitist attitude and mentality.

If you had actually done the research to dig up the filthy lawsuit you support,... - I have never claimed or said that I support it, I just posted the public record on the Deck. Here you are trying to put words in my mouth again. You really need to find a better way to express yourself without trying to shove words into other people. Maybe that is the only lawyer tactic you know?

...then you could easily get the answers to your own questions above about my lawsuit which is designed to gained evidence that could result in the return of the $125M "stolen" from the taxpayers and the underserved. If Carson or Uldricks fed you the other lawsuit,... - Nope, it is public record.

...perhaps you could give them a jingle to have them retrieve the court records that contain the answers you claim to seek. Or is it that you know the answers betray the bogus innuendos in your feeble questions? - Why would I ask questions if I did not want answers? Why do you passionately support Jim O'Bryan who is under lawsuit for being a bully? Why do you support him so viciously? What does that say about you and your beliefs? And your beliefs on what a bully is?

The few public records produced so far have exposed, among other things, that your freind, attorney Jay Carson, has bird dogged for Tom Bullock and has defended your other freind, Uldricks, who while under police investigation admitted to sending anonymous posts cards to citizens who opposed his city boss (Summers) which even the city human resource lady says were "meant to intimidate" those citizens. So again, it appears that your freind Carson, who claims to hate bullies, proactively defended one under investigation... This seems to be what you are currently doing with Jim. Do you really not see it?

...for arguably being a "bully" and who was previously convicted of "telecommunications Harrassment" involving anti-Semitic hate and strong and bizarre sexual content.

In short, your posts track the dishonesty of Bullock (an apparent freind of your freind Carson) that was the original subject of this thread.

My public records requests have not cost the taxpayers anything. - That is like saying that when the fire department responds to a false alarm it doesn't cost taxpayers anymore (in wages) than if there was a fire, yet they could be addressing an actual fire in that same timeframe but instead are wasting time, talent and money while at the false alarm.

So riddle me this Mr. President of JFF: - Again with the reference.

Why are you so passionate about attacking a person trying to return $125M to a public charity and the underserved to save lives?

- I am just asking questions, without passion, that all seem to go unanswered. I am not attacking. The more someone runs from the truth of the answers the more they perceive it as an attack. This then leads to more more questions and speculation, and thus a more deulsional sense of being attacked. Simply answering questions would put a lot to rest. Why do you run from questions, leading to speculation, claiming to be a victim of attacks and having to resort to lashing out at the character of others to divert from yourself? Someone, sometime must have taught you better than this.

[Brian Essi]

Thank you for proving every one of my points.

Dejavu all over again.

[Corey Rossen]

Thank you for proving every one of my points.

Dejavu all over again.

I knew you would not answer the questions posed to you in the post, I just never thought you would take such a short cut way out.

To mirror what you said, thank you for proving every one of my points.

[Brian Essi]

Butler owes a legal duty to answer my requests.

I have no such duty to you--if you practiced common decency and engaged in civil discourse I might respond differently.

Your conduct produces what you complain about.

[Corey Rossen]

Butler owes a legal duty to answer my requests.

I asked about this earlier but no response. You complain and complain but do not know the parameters you complain about.

Nothing to see here but deflection and mudslinging.

Move along.

[Lori Allen _]

Summa Health Systems was yet another bid that was either turned down or allegedly never received by Summers and Company. My husband's cousin was on the medical board that submitted the offer. Hey Summers, where did it go? I guess he must have had a convenient lapse in memory like he did on his deposition.

I believe that the reason they knew they could get away with this alleged scam of a deal is possibly because of Representative, Marcy Kaptur. She did take contributions from Summers and Company and CCF. Summers had a fundraiser for her at his house a couple of weeks ago at $250 dollars a plate. I assume it may have been a way of saying "thanks" for interfering with the Federal Trades Commission's investigation on the hospital. Yes, I have talked to the FTC personally. Don't forget she also endorsed Summers for mayor, even though she doesn't even live here and she is supposed to be representing all of us in her entire district. I am working on another plan with a group from Washington DC to try another way of filing the complaint. It is looking good. I will share the details here on the Deck when the plan is finalized. Stay tuned!

[Kate McCarthy]

How many hours is spent finding each answer, good or bad question? How many total hours spent chasing answers for the total amount of questions in the timeframe? How much has it cost me and the citizens in wages to the people finding the answers? I think some of the answer I don't want to know - such as how much has it cost me to have the City chase bad questions, vague questions or questions without answers and who asked those questions.

So is this the new talking point? The city that threw away millions of dollars in income and assets is now going to blame citizens seeking truth and justice for costing tax payers money?

[Corey Rossen]

How many hours is spent finding each answer, good or bad question? How many total hours spent chasing answers for the total amount of questions in the timeframe? How much has it cost me and the citizens in wages to the people finding the answers? I think some of the answer I don't want to know - such as how much has it cost me to have the City chase bad questions, vague questions or questions without answers and who asked those questions.

So is this the new talking point? The city that threw away millions of dollars in income and assets is now going to blame citizens seeking truth and justice for costing tax payers money?

I don't speak for the City. Just asking questions over the digital fence.

[Brian Essi]

We are witnessing an era in which lies by public officials and those aligned with them are the first recourse in public discussion.

1. Summers and Madigan lied shortly prior to January 15, 2015 that the hospital would not close.

2. Summers lied on January 15, 2015 in announcing that there would be a $120M investment in Lakewood when the hospital closure was a $120M loss.

3. This thread started with a video of the lies of Bullock and others on December 7, 2015 that the "deal" was better when it was objectively $15M worse than the $120M loss.

4. The thread continues with the person aligned with the liars perpetuating lies and claiming he is not aligned.

We all can read and see this truth, but tye pathology that blinds them--they can't help but perpetuate the lies--it is too painful for them to change.

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[Corey Rossen]

I think you are searching too much and becoming a little too desperate in your posts and hatred spewing rants. Stick to your research, it is what has gotten you this far. Stop trying to flatter yourself with your constant twisting of words and shoving them in people's mouths. If this is the only recourse that Save Lakewood's legal counsel has, they can definitely do much, much better.

I realize that I am your only target left here on the Deck that you haven't already bullied off of here. At least you continue to show your true colors with each and every hate-based post. You should begin to spend less time twisting and shoving words and more time lawyering, Save Lakewood is counting on you.

[Brian Essi]

There it is again. The surrogate of the "bullies" playing the victim. Projecting on to others what they are doing.

No facts, no substance. Just lies.

Checkmate.

[Corey Rossen]

SL, there is still time to hire a quality lawyer to represent you!

Call today!



Drop the mic!

[Pam Wetula]

Corey Rossen wrote:

How many hours is spent finding each answer, good or bad question? How many total hours spent chasing answers for the total amount of questions in the timeframe? How much has it cost me and the citizens in wages to the people finding the answers? I think some of the answer I don't want to know - such as how much has it cost me to have the City chase bad questions, vague questions or questions without answers and who asked those questions.

Corey,

I have been reading your rants for some time now, always resisting the urge to tell you to go out and get a real life.

You are OBVIOUSLY way off base in your above statement. Our city officials providing information requested is a standard part of their employment. No heroics required to produce the information when documentation is kept as required & in an orderly fashion. No ungodly addition hours or effort should be required to produce documents and emails generated in the last few years (and even older information should be more readily available).

They are spending more time denying or delaying responses for legitimately requested documents than complying with citizen inquiries which are protected by law. If city workers are not able to do their jobs because they are frittering away their time not complying with lawful requests for information, then they should be fired and replaced by employees that can handle their jobs.

Anyone can search through thousands of emails in seconds to find those pertaining to a particular topic or generated by a certain person or entity. Minutes of meeting records are to be kept. Contracts between the city and all vendors are to be kept as part of the financials.

Why would you take it upon yourself to condone such behavior by city officials and employees? Your attitude begs the question of what is the benefit to you for continually fighting righteous citizens like Brian Essi, who have the interests of Lakewood at large at heart.

Please, get off the Deck with your continual yammering. Or find something useful to say.

Respectfully,

pam wetula