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Patrick Wadden
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Re: Summersgate 1 Summers Hired BL Crony Convicted of Harrassment Involving Anti-Semitic and Bizarre Sexual Content Mail

Post by Patrick Wadden »

The hypotheticals that you bring up are a little different than what is outlined in the report from 2002.

Not really comparing apples to apples. But to answer your question. There are some offences that should disqualify a person from certain employment fields.

Question for you B, can a person ever be reformed and be trusted after committing a crime?
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Re: Summersgate 1 Summers Hired BL Crony Convicted of Harrassment Involving Anti-Semitic and Bizarre Sexual Content Mail

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Reformed would mean you never do it again.
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Re: Summersgate 1 Summers Hired BL Crony Convicted of Harrassment Involving Anti-Semitic and Bizarre Sexual Content Mail

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Patrick Wadden wrote:The hypotheticals that you bring up are a little different than what is outlined in the report from 2002.

Not really comparing apples to apples. But to answer your question. There are some offences that should disqualify a person from certain employment fields.

Question for you B, can a person ever be reformed and be trusted after committing a crime?
Yes.

But according to the Lakewood Police Detective who interviewed the Build Lakewood supporter with (Build Lakewood's lawyer, Jay Carson, present) the Build Lakewood supporter's conduct in 2015 was "very similar to what you were convicted for in Richmond Heights...it almost matches the report pretty close."

So in this case, doesn't it seems that he has not reformed and could not be trusted?

Who said I was talking about hypotheticals?
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Re: Summersgate 1 Summers Hired BL Crony Convicted of Harrassment Involving Anti-Semitic and Bizarre Sexual Content Mail

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What if - speculating here now, I don't want to get sued - a person was hired by the City to use the online skill set involved in past misdeeds?
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Re: Summersgate 1 Summers Hired BL Crony Convicted of Harrassment Involving Anti-Semitic and Bizarre Sexual Content Mail

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Brian Essi wrote:
Patrick Wadden wrote:The hypotheticals that you bring up are a little different than what is outlined in the report from 2002.

Not really comparing apples to apples. But to answer your question. There are some offences that should disqualify a person from certain employment fields.

Question for you B, can a person ever be reformed and be trusted after committing a crime?
Yes.

But according to the Lakewood Police Detective who interviewed the Build Lakewood supporter with (Build Lakewood's lawyer, Jay Carson, present) the Build Lakewood supporter's conduct in 2015 was "very similar to what you were convicted for in Richmond Heights...it almost matches the report pretty close."

So in this case, doesn't it seems that he has not reformed and could not be trusted?

Who said I was talking about hypotheticals?
What was Mr. Carson doing there? Was he representing Build Lakewood or was he representing this shining example of a Build Lakewooder?
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Re: Summersgate 1 Summers Hired BL Crony Convicted of Harrassment Involving Anti-Semitic and Bizarre Sexual Content Mail

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Brian Essi wrote:
Patrick Wadden wrote:The hypotheticals that you bring up are a little different than what is outlined in the report from 2002.

Not really comparing apples to apples. But to answer your question. There are some offences that should disqualify a person from certain employment fields.

Question for you B, can a person ever be reformed and be trusted after committing a crime?
Yes.

But according to the Lakewood Police Detective who interviewed the Build Lakewood supporter with (Build Lakewood's lawyer, Jay Carson, present) the Build Lakewood supporter's conduct in 2015 was "very similar to what you were convicted for in Richmond Heights...it almost matches the report pretty close."

So in this case, doesn't it seems that he has not reformed and could not be trusted?

Who said I was talking about hypotheticals?
In an earlier part of thread. You ask if a person were convicted of aggravated burglary and drug trafficking would RYAN be Ok with that person coming in his home for an inspection. Was this guy convicted of aggravated burglary and drug trafficking? The report you posted only talk about on line aliases and pervy e-mails. Maybe I missed I missed something.
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Re: Summersgate 1 Summers Hired BL Crony Convicted of Harrassment Involving Anti-Semitic and Bizarre Sexual Content Mail

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m buckley wrote:
Brian Essi wrote:
Patrick Wadden wrote:The hypotheticals that you bring up are a little different than what is outlined in the report from 2002.

Not really comparing apples to apples. But to answer your question. There are some offences that should disqualify a person from certain employment fields.

Question for you B, can a person ever be reformed and be trusted after committing a crime?
Yes.

But according to the Lakewood Police Detective who interviewed the Build Lakewood supporter with (Build Lakewood's lawyer, Jay Carson, present) the Build Lakewood supporter's conduct in 2015 was "very similar to what you were convicted for in Richmond Heights...it almost matches the report pretty close."

So in this case, doesn't it seems that he has not reformed and could not be trusted?

Who said I was talking about hypotheticals?
What was Mr. Carson doing there? Was he representing Build Lakewood or was he representing this shining example of a Build Lakewooder?
Low blow Buckley. Painting with a pretty broad brush there aren't you.
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Re: Summersgate 1 Summers Hired BL Crony Convicted of Harrassment Involving Anti-Semitic and Bizarre Sexual Content Mail

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m buckley wrote:
Brian Essi wrote:
Patrick Wadden wrote:The hypotheticals that you bring up are a little different than what is outlined in the report from 2002.

Not really comparing apples to apples. But to answer your question. There are some offences that should disqualify a person from certain employment fields.

Question for you B, can a person ever be reformed and be trusted after committing a crime?
Yes.

But according to the Lakewood Police Detective who interviewed the Build Lakewood supporter with (Build Lakewood's lawyer, Jay Carson, present) the Build Lakewood supporter's conduct in 2015 was "very similar to what you were convicted for in Richmond Heights...it almost matches the report pretty close."

So in this case, doesn't it seems that he has not reformed and could not be trusted?

Who said I was talking about hypotheticals?
What was Mr. Carson doing there? Was he representing Build Lakewood or was he representing this shining example of a Build Lakewooder?
Helping a "bully"?
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Re: Summersgate 1 Summers Hired BL Crony Convicted of Harrassment Involving Anti-Semitic and Bizarre Sexual Content Mail

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m buckley wrote:
Brian Essi wrote:
Patrick Wadden wrote:The hypotheticals that you bring up are a little different than what is outlined in the report from 2002.

Not really comparing apples to apples. But to answer your question. There are some offences that should disqualify a person from certain employment fields.

Question for you B, can a person ever be reformed and be trusted after committing a crime?
Yes.

But according to the Lakewood Police Detective who interviewed the Build Lakewood supporter with (Build Lakewood's lawyer, Jay Carson, present) the Build Lakewood supporter's conduct in 2015 was "very similar to what you were convicted for in Richmond Heights...it almost matches the report pretty close."

So in this case, doesn't it seems that he has not reformed and could not be trusted?

Who said I was talking about hypotheticals?
What was Mr. Carson doing there? Was he representing Build Lakewood or was he representing this shining example of a Build Lakewooder?
Helping a bully?
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Re: Summersgate 1 Summers Hired BL Crony Convicted of Harrassment Involving Anti-Semitic and Bizarre Sexual Content Mail

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The report you posted only talk about on line aliases and pervy e-mails. Maybe I missed I missed something.
* Did you miss the fact that the perpetrator harassed FOUR different people?

* That they used multiple methods of harassment - EMAIL, TELEPHONE, and the US MAIL.

* That the harassment continued over at least a TWO MONTH period?

* That it was directed at SCHOOL BOARD members and a school PRINCIPAL?

* And finally, that the people harassed had no prior knowledge of, or contact with this person that would indicate any prior engagement or reason for them being harassed - they had done NOTHING to instigate this harassment.

This is more than someone being caught up in a "heat of the moment" and lashing out at someone who hurt them.
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Re: Summersgate 1 Summers Hired BL Crony Convicted of Harrassment Involving Anti-Semitic and Bizarre Sexual Content Mail

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I don't disagree with you Bridget that this is serious. I just asked the question, based on Essi's hypotheticals. Was this person convicted of aggravated burglary and drug trafficking?
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Re: Summersgate 1 Summers Hired BL Crony Convicted of Harrassment Involving Anti-Semitic and Bizarre Sexual Content Mail

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The answer is easy. Is it "yes" or "no". Apparently Essi is the only person with the answer. Again, I don't really care either way. I don't know the person in question and don't know any of the players mentioned in the case. This isn't thread drift it's just a simple question that is important to the Essi bombastic headline. If the answer is YES then that's an accurate comparison. If the answer is NO then it wasn't an apples to apples comparison.
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Re: Summersgate 1 Summers Hired BL Crony Convicted of Harrassment Involving Anti-Semitic and Bizarre Sexual Content Mail

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Patrick Wadden wrote:The answer is easy. Is it "yes" or "no". Apparently Essi is the only person with the answer. Again, I don't really care either way. I don't know the person in question and don't know any of the players mentioned in the case. This isn't thread drift it's just a simple question that is important to the Essi bombastic headline. If the answer is YES then that's an accurate comparison. If the answer is NO then it wasn't an apples to apples comparison.
Sorry Patrick,

The night bite out here on the lake trolling is great tonight and I hadn't seen your questions on my phone--my cheaters are a bit foggy with all the excitement.

Firstly, I am not the only person who knows the answers---Summers, Siley, Yosefi, Butler, Bullock, some other members of council, Carson, and a host of other city hall and Build Lakewood people all know these answers and more.

The answer go the drug trafficking conviction is yes.

I mentioned arrest for aggravated burglary and I this record in my files too.

But if I recall correctly there are several other convictions as well, which were, of course, all a matter of record when the Build Lakewood Supprter was hired by Summers and Siley.

When I get back to shore, I will check the SummersGate files.

Why do you say the headline is bombastic? It is entirely factual.

BTW I just verified from multiple sources that the applicant worked on Summers' campaign in 2011--I am waiting on documents to further verify what the sources told me--keep in mind he was hired early in the 2015 re-election year. Convenient for the mayor and Bullock since public records show he did not meet a requirement of the job posting and several competing applicants with relevant job experience and much better qualifications were passed over--Sounds like the bid steering on the hospital?

Do you think the Summers Administration employment policies and procedures were acceptable to overlook the multiple criminal convictions of an applicant some of which were even disclosed to them by the Build Lakewood supporter?

Especially an applicant who could be working with the Summmers re-election campaign and who would have access to citizen's information--citizens who may be known to be critics of Summers and supporters of the opposing candidate, issue 64 and the hospital issue.

In fact the citizens that Yosefi said were @meant to be intimidated" by mailings that the detective said were similar to Richmond Heights report were known to be critical of Summers.

How do you like your fresh walleye cooked?
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Re: Summersgate 1 Summers Hired BL Crony Convicted of Harrassment Involving Anti-Semitic and Bizarre Sexual Content Mail

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t's just a simple question that is important to the Essi bombastic headline.
It's not important to the headline, at all. The headline is specifically concerned with the conviction for harassment, and the sordid details involved, which Essi then provides specific proof of such. The conviction is also verifiable by a search of Lyndhurst court records which are available online. In fact, one could easily find additional records online if one were so inclined to do a search.
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