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Dam Alaimo gave me a great idea, start trimming the drift from some of these threads and keep the whole thing more focused.

As Corey, Brian wants what is best for the Deck, and I am sure Lori would love to see some men slapped down, I propose moving all of the bits and pieces that fly around and nice things that get broken when the boys and gals wrestle, I am going to use this as the dust bin, errrr scratch and dent area.

We are also looking at a post per day limit, and time out for those that continue.

Yep after 12 years we are approaching a "Don't make me turn this car around moment."

Thank you in advance.

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All of these extra threads are distracting from the key fact at hand: City Hall's hiring of a criminal from the BL group.

Team Summers is thrilled with all these side threads....the "extra noise" deflects attention from their sins.
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I wouldn't keep the whole class after school because of the actions of one or two.
It seems Brian has yet to answer a couple of substantial questions. He should do so, and Corey should be satisfied with the response whatever it is, then both should take a deep breath.
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Michael Deneen wrote:All of these extra threads are distracting from the key fact at hand: City Hall's hiring of a criminal from the BL group.

Team Summers is thrilled with all these side threads....the "extra noise" deflects attention from their sins.
Mike

Send suggestions to Dan Alaimo, Meg Ostrowski.

We have many big stories rolling out and we need a way to kep them on topic, and moving ahead.

We are also starting personal blogs, as we are picking up more and more "real reporters" that want blogs too.

This way we will have a way to keep Brian's, Jared's, Your's and other stories together without the side notes.

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so the mosh pit of word jazz is being threatened with "safe spaces" again? what a bunch of crap. while I agree that the "clouds got in the way" thread should have been off limits to thread drift, I think pretty much every other thread here is fair game. if the SLH crew can't handle the heat then they should take their rear-ends out of the kitchen. the only time the deck is warned about "safe spaces" is when someone challenges SLH, essi in particular. those of us who challenge SLH are called all sorts of things yet I don't see us crying about post limits. I suppose if we stopped posting then the zombies could have the run of the place. not on my watch. the people voted on the issue and apparently, thanks to those who wish subvert the will of the people, it will be voted on again. until then everyone should be able to jump into the pit and have at it. if SLH is so sure that they have a case then they should welcome dissent, not fear it.
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Michael Deneen wrote:All of these extra threads are distracting from the key fact at hand: City Hall's hiring of a criminal from the BL group.

Team Summers is thrilled with all these side threads....the "extra noise" deflects attention from their sins.
bump.
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kate e parker wrote:so the mosh pit of word jazz is being threatened with "safe spaces" again? what a bunch of crap. while I agree that the "clouds got in the way" thread should have been off limits to thread drift, I think pretty much every other thread here is fair game. if the SLH crew can't handle the heat then they should take their rear-ends out of the kitchen. the only time the deck is warned about "safe spaces" is when someone challenges SLH, essi in particular. those of us who challenge SLH are called all sorts of things yet I don't see us crying about post limits. I suppose if we stopped posting then the zombies could have the run of the place. not on my watch. the people voted on the issue and apparently, thanks to those who wish subvert the will of the people, it will be voted on again. until then everyone should be able to jump into the pit and have at it. if SLH is so sure that they have a case then they should welcome dissent, not fear it.
No one seems to mention that the Clouds Got in the Way thread drift was started by a Michael Deneen rant. Don't tell the Round Table it was created by one of their own. But they are quick to blame others so much so that they are now revising the Deck. Way to go, Deneen, you broke the Deck.
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The main issue for me is that the "Essi-Rossen" dispute has little substance as it goes on and on, yet seems to spread everywhere and disrupts more substantial conversations. As far as I can see, both can be faulted. For instance, in the "Summersgate 1 Summers Hired BL Crony Convicted..." thread, it was a reference by Brian that set off Corey, and who then went on and on. Going way back, it seems to me that Brian's reluctance to answer questions about his charity started it all, but Corey wouldn't let go of it.

I don't know enough about Corey to buy into the idea that he's getting his marching orders from City Hall to disrupt conversation on the Deck. Jim knows him, and that's good enough for me.

By clearing and collecting all these extraneous posts (if someone has time to do that) maybe this picture will become clearer, and we can see who is instigating what. At least we will be able to better stay on point.
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Dan-- sounds like a good proposal , Stan
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Dan Alaimo wrote:...that set off Corey, and who then went on and on...but Corey wouldn't let go of it...
Mr. Alaimo, your own observations provide the evidence.
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Dan Alaimo wrote:The main issue for me is that the "Essi-Rossen" dispute has little substance as it goes on and on, yet seems to spread everywhere and disrupts more substantial conversations. As far as I can see, both can be faulted. For instance, in the "Summersgate 1 Summers Hired BL Crony Convicted..." thread, it was a reference by Brian that set off Corey, and who then went on and on. Going way back, it seems to me that Brian's reluctance to answer questions about his charity started it all, but Corey wouldn't let go of it.

I don't know enough about Corey to buy into the idea that he's getting his marching orders from City Hall to disrupt conversation on the Deck. Jim knows him, and that's good enough for me.

By clearing and collecting all these extraneous posts (if someone has time to do that) maybe this picture will become clearer, and we can see who is instigating what. At least we will be able to better stay on point.

Dan

Let me assure you, as someone that knows all the players, some for decades and decades.

Nothing is at it seems in this Bullshit. And there is the problem.

I have supported Corey and the Jordan Family Foundation since the inception. We have given them tens of thousands of dollars in advertising, and support.

But, if you been around here long enough, you start to see the forest for the trees. You don't need much to see which way the wind blows and why.

There is some bad shit about to break, City Hall has put us all in danger, and have now lost control of their pet project of nearly a decade.

It seems to me, that someone throws out facts, and the skirmish for BS and misdirection becomes painfully obvious. I do know that leading up to this important election the Deck and the Lakewood Observer is working towards a more direct, present our facts, and work with residents. The messages I am getting from others is less of the BS and more facts. So, we will move the fluff to the curb.

As I said we are looking for individual limits for those that are seen getting loose, moving posts, and time outs will all be coming into play leading up to the election.

There are some people that bring some really very real, very important serious stuff to the Deck, Lori and Brian, Bill Call, Gilman, O'Malley, Anderson, Markling but it gets lost in their own chaff and the chaff of others. We will figure out a way to fix that.

Side note is Essi Grossetti exchange being moved back into the discussion based on information Brian is bringing forward.

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so as long as the deck controls the message then all is well. after all, there is an election coming up and the deck wouldn't want any disturbance in the force. if the facts are so compelling then why control the message? I guess the cheerleaders need all the help they can get. looking forward to all the zombies and their parroted lines in the upcoming months around here. I will use my post limits wisely.
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since my posts aren't limited yet...

why do a large amount of people have a hard time about following posts from about 20 people in total? seriously, like 20 people post here regularly and you all can't follow along? the deck has to make it easier to read for everyone? the remedial deck? i'd say it's sad but really it's pathetic.
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Dan Alaimo wrote:The main issue for me is that the "Essi-Rossen" dispute has little substance as it goes on and on, yet seems to spread everywhere and disrupts more substantial conversations. As far as I can see, both can be faulted. For instance, in the "Summersgate 1 Summers Hired BL Crony Convicted..." thread, it was a reference by Brian that set off Corey, and who then went on and on. Going way back, it seems to me that Brian's reluctance to answer questions about his charity started it all, but Corey wouldn't let go of it.

I don't know enough about Corey to buy into the idea that he's getting his marching orders from City Hall to disrupt conversation on the Deck. Jim knows him, and that's good enough for me.

By clearing and collecting all these extraneous posts (if someone has time to do that) maybe this picture will become clearer, and we can see who is instigating what. At least we will be able to better stay on point.

Dan,

Sorry, but you seem to have missed a few posts---

1. Corey's tirade today started as soon as the Summersgate 1 post was made, Corey frantically began making multiple posts, digging up old posts and trying to change the subject from topic in the Summersgate 1 post he wants to obfuscate--classic shoot the messenger change the subject stuff--People actually called me laughing about how transparent his conduct was. So Corey was not "set off" by my reference to him--it was the subject of my post that set "him off". I do agree that the more I pointed out his conduct, the more obsessive and panicked he became.

2. The suggestion that I have not answered "substantial questions" is not accurate--I have answered all there is to know and all that is legally required to be made public about my foundation that was just incorporated in January. I'm sorry if Corey or anyone else wants to know more.

3. What started Corey's tirade a while back was being asked details about his foundation's interest in helping mine and the suggestion by Amy Martin that he was a "Bleed Lakewood mole". Corey got very angry and reacted like a child by calling me arrogant, questioning my law practice and calling my foundation "fraudulent"--he couldn't back up that claim and many more. In the end, he actually admitted he was acting "childish" and boring the Deck readers. Here is his admission and the posts that "Set him off" for your reference:
Corey Rossen wrote: I can't believe that you don't think our exchanges are childish and tiresome. I am bored with them as are the Deckers.
Corey Rossen wrote:
Brian Essi wrote:
Corey Rossen wrote:
Brian Essi wrote:
Corey Rossen wrote:
Brian Essi wrote:
I will continue to work to develop possible solutions to the healthcare crisis in Lakewood.
Have you been able to come up with any possible solutions to the healthcare crisis in Lakewood yet through your organization? Let's hear some ideas.
Yes. Many. All ideas are welcome.

Feel free to have your foundation submit their ideas!
Thank you. Our foundation focuses on pediatric cardiology research, education and awareness. We also deal with heart-healthy living for children and their families to eliminate childhood obesity, which can lead to heart problems. The majority of our dealings are with research institutes and other organizations focused on pediatric cardiology. I do not think that our organization offers solutions to communities on a "hospital basis" but rather through research, education and heart-healthy living (of which we supported LiveWell Lakewood and other local groups when they were around).
Great!

How can we measure the effectiveness of your organization?

For starters, can you provide your latest 3 form 990s, a list of trustees and officers together with their salaries, the ratio of dollars given to research vs trustee and officers salaries, a list of the research institutes and oraganizations you support together with the dollars given to each and the standards you have for determining the effectiveness of the dollars given those entities.

I find it funny and insulting that you doubt or question myself or my organization. Look us up, Mr. Research. I also find it funny that you formed an organization when you saw available money out there. I did not have that approach.

No salaries to anyone. All beyond exceptional volunteers. Time, talents and efforts 100% donated.

Lakewood City Schools
American Heart Association
Lerner Research Center
Texas Children's Hospital
Flying Horse Farms
Ronald McDonald House
Etc


91% donated versus income (these numbers verified to be part of the United Way Charitible Organization and Combined Federal Campaign), the rest is office supplies (ex: posters for events), legal permits, and event expenses (ex: rental fees), etc.

Tell me about your law career, I know you have plenty of time on your hands for research, is that due to lacking clients? Tell me about your new opportunistic organization. You bore me with your arrogance and amuse me at the same time.
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Amy Martin wrote:Corey is Bleed Lakewood's mole.
I love it that just because I am on the Deck and not bowing to your rants that I am part of a group. I am independent on this. Yes, that is right, a person thinking for themselves. It's worth a try, give it a whirl!

Or drink the Kool Aid and donate to Essi's fraudulent Foundation, see where that gets you. The only thing it gets you is a Free Pass on the Deck to join the ranting of the Deck conformists. Group think at its finest.
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91%...? Mr. Rossen said 91%. 91%...! It appears the numbers tell a different story.
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